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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 171088

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • English Sacha - 3 years ago
    Please every one think about this with an open heart and mind if only for one minute . I say this with love from my heart to yours . How can any one repent from their sinfulness if they don't fully acknowledge it ? How can any of us acknowledge our own sinfullness if we don't recognise it ? How can any of us recognise it if we don't own it ? How can any of us own it if we ease our own and others consciences by blaming the devil or satan or what ever you want to blame as long as you don't blame yourself . This to me is a great evil . Our pride . It stands in the way of true repentance . To truly repent , we must own , recognise and acknowledge our sinfulness . How like Christ are we ? Really ? Are we homeless ? Do we have cash ? Do we know where our next meal is coming from ? Is everything we do done for the benefit of someone else ? All day every day ? Do we love our brothers and sisters enough to die a painfull and humiliating death for their sake ? We are not called to do all of those things but we are supposed to be trying very hard every day to be as much like him as we can and we all fail every day . We all sin , every day . We don't just sin when we give in to temptation and do something that we know we shouldn't really do. We sin also when we dont do those things that we know we should . Whose fault is that ? The devil's ? satans ? No . It's ours . Truly own it and repent of it and be washed clean in the blood of the lamb and be baptized into the Saving Grace of Jesus's Sacrifice....for OUR sinfullness . Much love to you all in Christ .
  • Rod - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Sacha, I couldn't agree with you more, this is what true repentance means, that we stop blaming others for our shortcomings (sin). and as you said Pride is one of our biggest stumbling blocks to true repentance, if I may add some scripture that I needed to read over a couple times to understand the full meaning of following Christ.

    Philippians 2:5-11 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men, And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name, That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth, And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    Thank You and God Bless
  • English Sacha - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thank you Rod , you found the perfect scripture for my post . May God bless you and all yours .
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen sister English Sacha, we sin on our own and we will face judgment on our own. There are principalities, powers of darkness, and spiritual wickedness that roam this earth. They can deceive us and lead us on the wrong paths and if we have not received the Holy Spirit they can do physical and mental damage but we still are responsible for our sin.

    We are born with it and we will be buried in it, corruption, but if we have been sealed with the down payment (the earnest of the Spirit) we will not rise with it. Satan is an angelic being, he is not omnipresent, he cannot be at your house and my house at the same time. Like Paul said, "that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing".

    Like you said we cannot pass the buck, and how can we repent if we do not accept we are responsible, it is empty and meaningless. If we are honest with ourselves, our conscience lets us know if we sin.

    God bless you and your family,

    RLW
  • Carleton - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Good morning Sacha and all! I agree with what you wrote. Thank you so thoughts and meditations arise.

    There is no other way to know the Lord except by death and resurrection. In repentance and remission of my sins by faith, (my whole heart and life, anything that I was reminded of) I poured out my heart into Jesus at the foot of the Cross. I died and was baptized into the Lord's death by his spilt blood and water. Only I realized I was again alive, my burdens were lifted, my sins removed and that I was redeemed, loved, led by the Holy Spirit, a new man. I desired baptism by water as a sign of my new walk and as a testimony to those of the Kingdom that I desired to commune with them in Christ Jesus in Peace by the still water.

    Israel had an advantage as they were taught by God by Moses and the Prophets to believe in Jesus. They understood the need for offering and sacrifice to receive the Promise. Any believing member at the time of Jesus could die in Him and be resurrected in Him. Because God loves all, we as Gentiles who were afar off, confess His name by faith with the same understanding, all Gentiles can die to sins and be reborn in His new Life.

    So today, We walk in the New Life as little lambs, followers of our Shepard with a hope in heaven. This Life is opposed to old life in the flesh and we must be reminded to deny ourselves because of pride that never wants to die. Satan a spirit of pride wants to live in and command our clean heart with other spirits and defile the Temple. Jesus has overcome the Devil, Satan and these evil spirits and we must remain in Him by his leading which is the Holy Ghost.

    So the commission commanded by Christ is to teach, repentance and remission of sins and to baptize with water those who by faith believe and confess His name.
  • David - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Sasha We were born under the influence or subjected to sin now when I was taught the greatness of what I was redeemed from by Jesus Christ I confessed my sin and my sins are paid for now when i sin or break fellowship I ask forgiveness through my saviour. How can an individual know if he is sinning if he doesn't know what sin is, that is in the category of ignorant but once I understood my fault through Gods Word I changed and accepted my fault and my Saviour. No one said they denied their sin but remember we were born in that state Ephesians 2:1 and 5 without God and without hope. Now being a saint being born again when I sin or break fellowship I confess and am forgiven because as it says in 1 John 1:8-10 but this applies to us who are born again.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    You say you are born again, and I am not disputing that.

    You quoted 1 John 1:8-10

    As born again what do you do with 1 John 3:8-9

    The scriptures have to be in unity.
  • David - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Earl Sin which is broken fellowship is the state we were born in flesh and blood so our drive was to do those things of the five senses and we were born in that state thanks to what happened in genesis. Now when we are born again of the spirit of God and do the word when we are walking by the spirit we aren't breaking fellowship but when we aren't walking by the spirit then we are walking by the flesh and that is sin. The spirit in us does not sin when we operate by it but when we don't then we do the things of the flesh which is sin. Keep in mind sin is in the blood and the life of the flesh is in the blood hence the battle between our natural man of the senses or carnal mind the world or the spiritual born again man of the spirit Gods word. Also theres a difference between intentional and non intentional sin I.E. I do lots of works but if it not with the love of God agapeo then it means nothing Corinthians 13 all chapter. I can teach the greatness of Gods Word but if theres no genuine love in it it will fall on deaf ears. The love of God is the soothing ointment that can deliver the spiritually wounded.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother David, you said when we are born again, and I have no doubts you are born again, and we walk in the Spirit, we aren't breaking fellowship, but when we are not walking in the Spirit but in the flesh, we sin.

    I believe the Truth in God's word explains what you describe.

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit in you and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) that worketh in you both TO WILL and TO DO HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

    In Isaiah 10 God uses the King of Assyria to bring judgement upon Israel, therefore God's Spirit was in the king CAUSING him TO DO God's will.

    God said when he was finished judging Israel by the hand of Assyria, he would punish the King, not because the King murdered and stole and raped, but he would be punished because he took credit HIMSELF, instead of understanding God DID IT, through him.

    God CAUSES us, his creation, every second of the day TO DO his work (statues and judgements). We may think when God is causing us TO DO, that we are walking in the flesh, and we are, but it is not SIN. Unless you believe it is not God DOING IT, and then the SIN is UNBELIEF. The only sin that want be forgiven in THIS AGE or the AGE TO COME, after that (judgement) they will be forgiven.

    May the Spirit CAUSE us to come to TRUTH.

    ASK and you shall receive.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Likely the glue between these scriptures is The Holy Spirit abiding in one's temple. The Holy Spirit's great purpose is to witness the Truth.



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