Bible Discussion Thread

Chris The clear words or information to believers your speaking about is revelation or revealed knowledge which cannot be known by the 5 senses it is not thinking things through it is not analytical it is God giving specific instruction or guidance as what to say or act or do in a specific situation. The example that comes to mind when Joshua got to Jericho he was told by God he would take it over that was prophetic now the carrying out of how. Joshua 6-1-21 the rest of the revelation to be carried out is the details trumpets the marching and the big one everyone obeying what Joshua was being told. I guarantee you if he wouldn't have done what he was told or the people would not have listened no Go. When Naaman was told by the prophet to go dip in Jordan 7 times revealed knowledge who to go where to go why to go what to do and what will happen and I'll guarantee you if he would have dipped six times no healing. There is no difference in our day and time it is Gods Solution to a problem making known to the senses man by his spirit in us. To me this is one of the most misunderstood things in christianity because I've heard to many people tell me God told them this or that and biblically made no sense and with the true God two scriptures come to mind. James 1:17 and 3:17 God Bless

Thank you brother. I agree with what you've written there.

Chris Another point we believers already know because of what's written the world is corrupt so prophecy of a prophet i.e. should be stated to prepare for a specific situation, supposedly Jean Dixon gave prophecy of kennedy's assassination what's the point or profit it it wasn't stopped. We know the story of Joseph in Egypt with pharaoh and the dream of the drought, look at all the profit he was given the signet ring he was put in command of the egypt and built in up to a mighty empire under Gods guidance. Same thing that comes to mind with Daniel knowing the the dream of the king[prophecy]at that time look at all the profit lives were saved and Daniel Gods man was made a ruler. I can say to you now our country is doomed am I speaking prophetically absolutely not, there are so many things being done against the true God that if it doesn't turn its over that's already written. Keep something in mind we can save people but not nations or countries those are ruled by the enemy.

Indeed Rick, when we refer to the OT concerning the characters you mentioned, we can see how God spoke to them through dreams to reveal His future plans. However, with Jean Dixon, she was an astrologer/psychic who prophesied of Kennedy's assassination (though not naming him, but describing his features), but in the same vein, some of her other predictions failed (e.g. WWIII would start in 1958, the Soviets would land the first man on the moon, & others); so I don't think she would quite fit our thoughts here.

And in the NT (post-Cross), we have Agabus ( Acts 11:27,28; Acts 21:10,11), Philip's four daughters, Judas Barsabas & Silas, & of course, the Apostle John. We don't know what some of them proclaimed, but if true to their calling as prophets, their forthtelling & words of guidance would not only be Spirit-breathed but would not fail. It would be interesting if present-day prophets were checked for their annunciations & if found wanting, how would the Church deal with them. I fear, not well. But the Church would be blessed if there were those who truly brought out the Mind of God, as also the teachers of the Word, that God's people might be enriched & prepared. Or else, many will be left disillusioned.

Hi Brother Agabus took Pauls robe ties off and tied himself and said thus saith the lord so will the man wearing this be tied up going to Jerusalem, God was trying to tell Paul through Agabus don't go and told him point blank that the man wearing this would be taken and if it weren't for being rescued Paul would have died. The reason the believers ceased saying do the will of the lord in context they were begging him not to go to Jerusalem which was Gods Will. This story is hardly read in the proper context.

That was an interesting take on the Agabus prophecy to Paul. I've never looked it that way; I've always understood it as God's Word indicating what would befall Paul at Jerusalem if he went there, & Agabus' & others' compelling words for Paul to stay back was based on that fact only & not on obedience to the prophecy. So, I see that prophetical warning as just that, a warning, & not a disobedience by Paul to be at Jerusalem for Pentecost.

Hi Chris My explanation was incomplete my apology, Pauls ministry was to the gentiles in Acts 20:22 it says he went bound in the spirit not caring whether he lived or died basically bound is determined but was it his determination not Gods Will because God will not tell you to go somewhere to be killed, so in context I see God intervening through other believers to keep Paul out of the soup. Keep something in mind. the jews zealous for the law wanted paul dead after his conversion and at times followed where he went to talk converted followers out of there belief. Just things to consider Again my apologies for incomplete explanation.

Thank you brother for that further explanation.

Brother I hear that loud and clear, I believe in our day and time the true God isn't moving that big because of unbelief in the body of Christ. A friend of mine was at a rather large gathering where a believer was sharing about idolatrous practices and in the middle of it said by the way all of you still doing these things leave now or I will come down and throw you out, about fifty people got up and left ten minutes later he said with a smile now lets Get Into some serious Bible.

Some one might say that's harsh, I say spiritually God was cleaning house nobody was harmed they were ask to leave. By the way supposedly this was a leadership conference.

Amen Brother Rick!