Bible Discussion Thread

Hi Earl By your communication whether the spirit or not can be determined by the reader, but apparently we have no will and we are nothing but tried tested exeriment with God or so to speak puppets. A loving God does not manipulate nor control thats what true love which is by freedom of will. Do you make your children love you or do you make people love you by force? The Spirit Speaks!

Brother David, Did Christ ever do anything of himself; or, did he do what his Father caused him TO DO.

Do you think Christ saw himself as a Puppet or forced to love his Father.

Earl Let me state this if you can show me scripture where it says God made or caused or Forced Jesus Christ to do anything I'm with you it can't be implied, it has to literally say that.

Hi Earl He Had freedom will and chose to do the will of His father all the time that's why in the garden of gethsemane He said to His father is there any other way God said nope and what were His Jesus Christ Words by freedom of will not my will but thine be done. Therefore he had a choice I didn't write the book.

Brother David, in the fullness of times, GOD will be ALL IN ALL ( 1 Corinthians 15:28).

Jesus came to visibly show what it means for God to be ALL in ALL, Christ was the first.

Christ is the body ( Ephesians 4:4)(a vessel) that holds ALL GOD IS; therefore Christ did nothing of himself, because a BODY can DO NOTHING of itself, It's the LIFE in the BODY that does the work. ( John 5:19)( John 5:30)( John 8:28).

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (the LIFE) which worketh in you (in the body, the vessel, even in Christ) TO WILL and TO DO his (the Father's) good pleasure.

We are going to be CONFORMED to the likeness of Christ. We are the pot (the body, the vessel) he is the potter.

He is bring his BODY (you and I) to TRUTH. WE do NOTHING OURSELVES ( John 15:5).

When you are BORN of TRUTH, ALL that you are doing is not you THE BODY doing it, but God THE LIFE in you doing the work.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God (TRUTH) doth not COMMIT SIN: for his SEED (CHRIST IN YOU)( Colossians 1:27) remaineth in him (you ARE DEAD (in trespasses) he GAVE you HIS LIFE, you are now the body that HOLDS ALL GOD IS): and he (the one who died to TRUTH), cannot sin, because he is born of TRUTH.

And the TRUTH is:

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (THE LIFE) which worketh in you (HIS BODY) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

God grace us with eyes to see, God bless you.

Earl Love ya but your combined statements and scripture make no sense in the context of whats being spoken of biblically and how God set up life to function according to his word in this world and that which is coming. That being stated its your privilege and also responsibility to prove all things and hold fast to that which is true. Truth is what Gods word says in the context and order he set up. I'm thankful that the master jesus Christ spoke at the right time in the right way with the right words to the right people so that his father could say this is my beloved son hear ye him. Also when he taught Luke 4:32-36 when he taught they were astonished because His word had exousia exercised power displayed. Same word we have when correctly spoken Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever.

David,

I agree with you on this. Jesus was not forced on anything. He chose to do the Father's will every moment of every day. He was tempted, but chose not to sin. He used his freedom to live a perfectly obedient life, unlike all of mankind.