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You are absolutely right, Revelation Ch 2 and 3, is a great study for the Church, and it instructs us in the right direction and shows us what's lacking. I can see some truth in what Matt is saying, Today some seem to want to sit around and talk over scripture in a round table setting with no virtue from the discussion. There seems to be a push to excuse or accept anything as long as one "says" he or she loves Jesus. A true believer shouldn't be totally lacking in fruit barren. When we feed on the "sincere" word whether by reading or one's teaching and we seek truth there should be spiritual growth at some point. We often quote and misuse 1 John 2:27. here I think John is talking about the Spirit giving revelation. Because the Lord gifted the Church with teachers and if their message is true there is a spiritual growth goes on that we have no control of, it's a leading out to green pasture. If the message is false we flee! That's revealed by the Spirit as well.
Luke 17:20-21. I hold the view that the Lord is saying in their midst. The kingdom of God is not coming the way the Pharisees expected. it want be with observation where he would come and usher out the Romans. God was ruling in the hearts of some people and the king was standing in front of them. John the baptist said in Matthew 3:1-2. In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. and also Jesus Matthew 4:17. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. However they rejected their king, "He will return". Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. we do know they seen him again, What this means is behold him as a nation. And that will be done in the Millennium when he sits on David's throne.
I think that 1 john 2:27 does teach us that the Holy Spirit will guide our learning, but it does not say we should learn alone or in a vacuum. We are to teach and exhort one another, building one another and edifying those who we interact with in Christ. I have learned many things from the Holy Spirit in a private setting. These teachings and illumination of Scripture by the Holy Spirit are very obvious and easily identified as being from Him. I have learned many things from the preaching of my pastor. Sometimes, unbeknownst to me, he preaches on a passage of Scripture I just read the night before. Many times I learn from a Bible study. But I think that I learn the most when i am with my friends of 40+ years and we talk life, kids, concerns, and the great things Jesus is doing in us each day.
I am glad that you are finding benefit in what I write. It is how I feel lead to respond to my reading Genesis anew on this site, so it is good to get feedback. My style isn't for everyone, but it is my prayer the benefit goes beyond me (Paraphrasing is a proven learning technique). I enjoy reading your posts as well. You make a lot of sense.
Thanks for the reply.
You are absolutely right, Revelation Ch 2 and 3, is a great study for the Church, and it instructs us in the right direction and shows us what's lacking. I can see some truth in what Matt is saying, Today some seem to want to sit around and talk over scripture in a round table setting with no virtue from the discussion. There seems to be a push to excuse or accept anything as long as one "says" he or she loves Jesus. A true believer shouldn't be totally lacking in fruit barren. When we feed on the "sincere" word whether by reading or one's teaching and we seek truth there should be spiritual growth at some point. We often quote and misuse 1 John 2:27. here I think John is talking about the Spirit giving revelation. Because the Lord gifted the Church with teachers and if their message is true there is a spiritual growth goes on that we have no control of, it's a leading out to green pasture. If the message is false we flee! That's revealed by the Spirit as well.
Luke 17:20-21. I hold the view that the Lord is saying in their midst. The kingdom of God is not coming the way the Pharisees expected. it want be with observation where he would come and usher out the Romans. God was ruling in the hearts of some people and the king was standing in front of them. John the baptist said in Matthew 3:1-2. In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. and also Jesus Matthew 4:17. From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. However they rejected their king, "He will return". Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. we do know they seen him again, What this means is behold him as a nation. And that will be done in the Millennium when he sits on David's throne.
God bless you.
I think that 1 john 2:27 does teach us that the Holy Spirit will guide our learning, but it does not say we should learn alone or in a vacuum. We are to teach and exhort one another, building one another and edifying those who we interact with in Christ. I have learned many things from the Holy Spirit in a private setting. These teachings and illumination of Scripture by the Holy Spirit are very obvious and easily identified as being from Him. I have learned many things from the preaching of my pastor. Sometimes, unbeknownst to me, he preaches on a passage of Scripture I just read the night before. Many times I learn from a Bible study. But I think that I learn the most when i am with my friends of 40+ years and we talk life, kids, concerns, and the great things Jesus is doing in us each day.
I also learn from the refresher course you're taking us through. Going through the bible is always great, We appreciate what you do.
God bless.
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