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Would you say plain people is one without the Holyspirit? if he has the Holyspirit he's not plain!! He has a helper and a truth revealer.
1 Corinthians 2:12-14. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. The Carnal mind can't understand what is written literal.
Here's The commandment Christ is speaking of-
John 15:12. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
And this is not done by you, It is the Holyspirit that causes you to Love by virtue. This is a fruit. You can't produce fruit, You bare it by being connected to the vine. The Law could never Change the inner Man. Fruitl is interior!
Here's the concept. Matthew 23:25-26. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Jesus is not talking about the Law because noone has been able to keep the law if so there was no need of a mercy seat that pointed to Christ.
The law was given to Israel and there was no tolerance in keeping it. It was the ministry of condemnation. If you break one you broken them all and if you do it once you're forever lost if you're not covered by the Lambs blood.
Colossians 2:13-14.
Romans 7:10.
Romans 7:11.
Romans 7:12.
The first sabbath that was broken when the law was given a couple was stoned to death for gathering sticks.
Always nice to converse with you. You touched on a lot, and I will try to respond. I think you know what I mean when I say "plain people". God gave us His Written Word via the Bible so that a "regular person" can read/understand, and ultimately accept Jesus Christ as his savior. Yes, God's Holy Spirit is instrumental in the understanding/transformation of the Born Again Christian. This can all happen without the person becoming a Bible Scholar!
Accepting Jesus Christ as Savior, being baptized and recieveing the Holy Sprit, repenting from sin, and living a New Life is accoplished between the person, and God! So I beleieve we are in agreement, that God will accomplish the transformation through His Holy Spirit.
You stated the following:
"Here's The commandment Christ is speaking of- " John 15:12. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
I will say, It is more than just "one commandment" that Christ speaks about. The commandments are plural - more than one:
Matthew 22:38-40
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets
Please Note: Jesus states on the above 2 commandments "hang all the law" and the prophets! Christ is not doing away with God's 10 commandments!
Jesus stated that the 1st and Greatest Commandment is to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. If we love God, as a good Christian, why wouldn't we try to follow his 10 commandments?
It's always pleasant engaging with you as well. Sorry for such a slow response. I'm working this weekend, but will further engage with you in the near future.
I so agree with your post. It is well stated and easy to understand.
Yes, God will lead each person in the way He wants them to grow, whether in Scripture knowledge, character building, in love, in gratitude, in graciousness, in forbearance, etc. He works with us individually. Not every believer will follow the same path as another believer. We do not need to be Bible scholars. We can be scholars in science, archeology, geography, history, etc. to help understand aspects of the Bible and help others. We are called to grow in grace and the knowledge of Jesus Christ, so our pursuits should feed growth in these areas.
Thanks. I agree, we all grow differently and at different speeds, hoping and praying for The One to bless each of us (His Flock) with His Spirit of Knowledge, Truth, and Love.
I love to learn and share the Word on this site. There is much life giving food here, enough for all of us to grow and share!
Would you say plain people is one without the Holyspirit? if he has the Holyspirit he's not plain!! He has a helper and a truth revealer.
1 Corinthians 2:12-14. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. The Carnal mind can't understand what is written literal.
Here's The commandment Christ is speaking of-
John 15:12. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
And this is not done by you, It is the Holyspirit that causes you to Love by virtue. This is a fruit. You can't produce fruit, You bare it by being connected to the vine. The Law could never Change the inner Man. Fruitl is interior!
Here's the concept. Matthew 23:25-26. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Jesus is not talking about the Law because noone has been able to keep the law if so there was no need of a mercy seat that pointed to Christ.
The law was given to Israel and there was no tolerance in keeping it. It was the ministry of condemnation. If you break one you broken them all and if you do it once you're forever lost if you're not covered by the Lambs blood.
Colossians 2:13-14.
Romans 7:10.
Romans 7:11.
Romans 7:12.
The first sabbath that was broken when the law was given a couple was stoned to death for gathering sticks.
As plain as it gets.
God bless.
Always nice to converse with you. You touched on a lot, and I will try to respond. I think you know what I mean when I say "plain people". God gave us His Written Word via the Bible so that a "regular person" can read/understand, and ultimately accept Jesus Christ as his savior. Yes, God's Holy Spirit is instrumental in the understanding/transformation of the Born Again Christian. This can all happen without the person becoming a Bible Scholar!
Accepting Jesus Christ as Savior, being baptized and recieveing the Holy Sprit, repenting from sin, and living a New Life is accoplished between the person, and God! So I beleieve we are in agreement, that God will accomplish the transformation through His Holy Spirit.
You stated the following:
"Here's The commandment Christ is speaking of- " John 15:12. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
I will say, It is more than just "one commandment" that Christ speaks about. The commandments are plural - more than one:
Matthew 22:38-40
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets
Please Note: Jesus states on the above 2 commandments "hang all the law" and the prophets! Christ is not doing away with God's 10 commandments!
Jesus stated that the 1st and Greatest Commandment is to love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. If we love God, as a good Christian, why wouldn't we try to follow his 10 commandments?
God Bless.
It's always pleasant engaging with you as well. Sorry for such a slow response. I'm working this weekend, but will further engage with you in the near future.
God bless.
Yes, God will lead each person in the way He wants them to grow, whether in Scripture knowledge, character building, in love, in gratitude, in graciousness, in forbearance, etc. He works with us individually. Not every believer will follow the same path as another believer. We do not need to be Bible scholars. We can be scholars in science, archeology, geography, history, etc. to help understand aspects of the Bible and help others. We are called to grow in grace and the knowledge of Jesus Christ, so our pursuits should feed growth in these areas.
Thanks. I agree, we all grow differently and at different speeds, hoping and praying for The One to bless each of us (His Flock) with His Spirit of Knowledge, Truth, and Love.
I love to learn and share the Word on this site. There is much life giving food here, enough for all of us to grow and share!
God Bless You.
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