Bible Discussion Thread

It is true that there are penalties and punishments for lying. And anyone saying do not judge someone or their heart for their lies are not speaking by the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth and he is the Spirit of God. God hates lying so much that he said in Revelations that whosoever, make and love a lie shall not enter into heaven.

Revelation 21

KJV

27+ And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Revelation 22

KJV

15+ For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

We must judge righteous judgment. The Bible says that we will judge the world then why come we cannot judge the works both bad and good of others. It is unscriptural not to judge what is coming out of someone's spirit. The Holy Spirit is in you to help you. For it is dangerous not to try a spirit but to believe every spirit. The Holy Spirit in us is our measuring rod that let's us know when a standard is not of the Lord. And no lie or liar is of the Lord. People have been destroyed and even literally killed because of a lying and deceitful tongue. I find the scripture Psalms 120 in my morning devotion to be right on the mark. I have an acquaintance that lies to get everything she need, wants, and desires. But she say that she is Born-Again. However, this morning before reading my devotion the Holy Spirit was revealing to me that she is a liar and it is going too land her in trouble then in hell if she does not change. But? How will she turn from her ways if she does not hear the Word of God on this matter. She has stop going to church and only listens to false teachers that God told her to depart from long ago. Some of these false teachers were caught and reported to Rip Off. However, she still remain among them. Therefore, it is our reasonable services to pray but then we act. Shalom!!

I agree with you Dee. And not just with lying, so many so-called Christians think nothing of it, also of petty-thieving, gossip, slander, etc., etc. I think many use the 10 Commandments as their guage for right behaviour & everything else falls into the 'minor sins' category & remains unaccountable before God. Whereas those who have the Spirit of God, always remain sensitive to Him, feeling His tug on our hearts & minds, even the gentle urging or prodding to walk the other way or refrain from doing or saying something. One example that comes to mind is a person I know who openly states that when she goes to buy some fruit, she will always try first before buying, since one has to be sure that the fruit is worth the money. She doesn't consider what she does as stealing, just a sampling.

Even though it's so easy to pronounce judgement on such people, maybe our response should rather be to help them see the matter correctly & maybe do the right thing on their behalf that they might learn. And for lying, if truth is shared (whether from the Word or from calling them out), their lying condition will be exposed. What they do with that exposition will determine where they're at before God.