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In the beginning Adam and Eve were immortal they had no need of protein, vitamins, or minerals in their bodies. So, the fruit of the trees and the herbs of the field were enough for them, even all of the animals ate grass the lions, tigers, etc. the list goes on. But after the fall of man (taken of the forbidden fruit) Adam and Eve died to the spirit (they lost their immortality) they had to start eating meat and vegetables. The body now needed the protein and minerals to survive. Recall Genesis 3: 17, 18, & 19 God told Adam he would have to eat of the ground that includes animals that feed off the ground.
I do not think that Adam and Eve were created as immortal. I think they were created as mortals without sin at the time they were created. They had the ability to chose to obey God's command or disobey Him. Their disobedience brought spiritual death to them. If they were born immortal they would not need to eat from the tree of life, as God said that if they ate of the Tree of Life, they would live forever. ( Gen. 3:23). Thus God put them out of the Garden to restrict them from eating of the Tree of Life. They must not have ever eaten of the Tree of Life.
I am not aware of anywhere in Scripture were it speaks of an being created immortal (angels, heavenly hosts) from their beginning ever becoming mortal. (Not talking about the Son of God; who created everything, but was never created).
the Scripture does say that man, who is mortal from conception, can become immortal through belief in the gospel of Jesus Crist.
For the sake of conversation, So, you are saying that the creator is mortal and not immortal.
Genesis 1:26 reads "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:". If God is mortal than God must have blood but wait blood can't enter heaven. Are you saying the Angels have flesh and blood too? If man was made in the image of God and God's likeness than that man must be like God. Adam and Eve was transformed from immortal to mortal in a twinkle of an eye just as we will be transformed in an twinkle of an eye. We will go from mortal to immortal.
Cowboy, I am not saying that the Creator is mortal. He is not a creature and is self existent. His eternal existence is within Himself. I really cannot say for certain what the "image of God" is in mankind. Each and every person is made in His image from Adam to now. We are all mortal but still possess the image of God. This image does not include His essence (that which makes Him God and completely separate from what any creature he has created). This essence includes so many qualities that we do not possess-self existence, infinity, absolute perfection, holiness to the infinity degree, all-powerful, all-knowing, everywhere present, eternal immortality, absolute completeness, self-sufficiency (in need of nothing outside of Himself), perfect simplicity (He is not made of parts or has a composite existence), unchanging, He cannot be harmed by anything, subdued by anything, or overruled by anything.
These qualities are all what He is as a whole, He is not part all-powerful and part unchanging. He possesses all of these qualities to the utmost and, as far as simplicity goes, these qualities are His essence. They cannot be separated out from Him or compartmentalized.
We however are composite beings. We are made of parts and if parts fail or are removed we can die or suffer harm.
Same is true of all created things and beings. We have limits on all of our abilities and faculties. We capable of adding to our abilities (i.e. knowledge, strength) or these abilities can be reduced or eliminated. We can be made alive spiritually, which is a change in our nature. We can be affected by outside forces. So the image of God in us is none of the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.
This is why I do not believe that man was made immortal (the angels are made this way).To live forever, He would have needed to eat from the Tree of Life, which shows that Adam and Eve did not possess immortality.
Immortality in man can only be acquired, not restored, in man by salvation.
The text in Genesis does not say that Adam and Eve were created immortal. Therefore, this is something we really do not know for sure. Certainly, what God had done in creation was good. It does not say that it was perfect in an absolute sense that we will be in the resurrection.
In order for Jesus to be like us and be on our level, He was created the "FIRST" and "ONLY" son of Jehovah God! (NOW LISTEN TO THIS) By being "BORN" by the "IMMACULATE CONCEPTION" of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary, He became and "IS" the only human that was "CAPABLE" of enduring life without sin and growing up knowing and "LEARNING" his mission to die on the cross for "ALL" even die for Satan and his demons. Therefore, in order for Jehovah God to "FORGIVE" man and all creation that He had created, Jesus also endured the "TOTAL" pains of "HELL", AND, was the "ONLY" human to "GO" to hell, thus "BECOMING" and "QUALIFYING" to be "EVERYONE'S" Savior by "TEACHING" us to overcome the powers of Satan AND HAVE VICTORY OVER HIM (SATAN) ENDURING SATAN'S ATTACKS BY "LOVING" HIM AS WELL AS LOVING JESUS.
Hello Perry. Folk might have eaten meat at that point as suggested by Rick, but if you're seeking a Scripture, then Genesis 9:1-4 (with Noah & his family after the flood), might answer your question.
Thank you for that scripture. I've read it multiple times in my quest to read the bible from front to back and never saw it in that light. I will use it along with other scriptures in the new testament to refute those that say we can't eat certain meats. It's all about not eating the blood.
In the beginning Adam and Eve were immortal they had no need of protein, vitamins, or minerals in their bodies. So, the fruit of the trees and the herbs of the field were enough for them, even all of the animals ate grass the lions, tigers, etc. the list goes on. But after the fall of man (taken of the forbidden fruit) Adam and Eve died to the spirit (they lost their immortality) they had to start eating meat and vegetables. The body now needed the protein and minerals to survive. Recall Genesis 3: 17, 18, & 19 God told Adam he would have to eat of the ground that includes animals that feed off the ground.
God Bless
stay prayed up and ready to go up
cowboy
I do not think that Adam and Eve were created as immortal. I think they were created as mortals without sin at the time they were created. They had the ability to chose to obey God's command or disobey Him. Their disobedience brought spiritual death to them. If they were born immortal they would not need to eat from the tree of life, as God said that if they ate of the Tree of Life, they would live forever. ( Gen. 3:23). Thus God put them out of the Garden to restrict them from eating of the Tree of Life. They must not have ever eaten of the Tree of Life.
I am not aware of anywhere in Scripture were it speaks of an being created immortal (angels, heavenly hosts) from their beginning ever becoming mortal. (Not talking about the Son of God; who created everything, but was never created).
the Scripture does say that man, who is mortal from conception, can become immortal through belief in the gospel of Jesus Crist.
For the sake of conversation, So, you are saying that the creator is mortal and not immortal.
Genesis 1:26 reads "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:". If God is mortal than God must have blood but wait blood can't enter heaven. Are you saying the Angels have flesh and blood too? If man was made in the image of God and God's likeness than that man must be like God. Adam and Eve was transformed from immortal to mortal in a twinkle of an eye just as we will be transformed in an twinkle of an eye. We will go from mortal to immortal.
God Bless
stay prayed up and ready to go up
cowboy
These qualities are all what He is as a whole, He is not part all-powerful and part unchanging. He possesses all of these qualities to the utmost and, as far as simplicity goes, these qualities are His essence. They cannot be separated out from Him or compartmentalized.
We however are composite beings. We are made of parts and if parts fail or are removed we can die or suffer harm.
Same is true of all created things and beings. We have limits on all of our abilities and faculties. We capable of adding to our abilities (i.e. knowledge, strength) or these abilities can be reduced or eliminated. We can be made alive spiritually, which is a change in our nature. We can be affected by outside forces. So the image of God in us is none of the things I mentioned in the previous paragraph.
This is why I do not believe that man was made immortal (the angels are made this way).To live forever, He would have needed to eat from the Tree of Life, which shows that Adam and Eve did not possess immortality.
Immortality in man can only be acquired, not restored, in man by salvation.
have sinned and they had perfect blood and Leviticus 17:11 life of the flesh is in the blood and God said everything
he created was very good no corruption by logic thy could have lived forever.
The text in Genesis does not say that Adam and Eve were created immortal. Therefore, this is something we really do not know for sure. Certainly, what God had done in creation was good. It does not say that it was perfect in an absolute sense that we will be in the resurrection.
But thanks for your thoughts.
camel goats etc.
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