Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • PAST and MODERN DAY PESTILENCE or PLAGUES - 3 years ago
    Pestilence means a deadly and overwhelming disease that affects an entire community. The Black Plague, a disease that killed over thirty percent of Europe's population, was certainly a pestilence. Pestilence is also one of the four Horseman of the Apocalypse in the book of Revelation.

    The definition of a pestilence is any infectious, fatal disease that is widespread or an evil influence or deliverer. An example of a pestilence is the bubonic plague. An example of a pestilence is a swarm of mosquitoes carrying disease.

    As proper nouns the difference between famine and pestilence:

    is that famine is the personification of famine, often depicted riding a BLACK horse while pestilence is the personification of pestilence, often depicted riding a WHITE horse.

    The four horsemen of the apocalypse are four biblical figures who appear in the Book of Revelation. They are revealed by the unsealing of the first four of the seven seals. famine, and death; conquest, and war.

    The H1N1 influenza A pandemic of 1918-1920 (Spanish flu) remains the deadliest pandemic of the modern age, with estimates of mortality ranging from 17 million to 100 million from an estimated 500 million infections globally (approx. a third of the earth.

    Bubonic plague may seem like a part of the past, but it still exists today in the world and in rural areas of the USA. The best way to prevent getting plague is to avoid the fleas on rodents: rats, mice, squirrels, pets.

    [Smallpox, Influenza, Rabies, Tuberculosis, Leprosy, Bubonic & Pnemonic (flu) diseases; Malaria, HIV aids. These pestilences are still active in the world today.] Covid the most recent.

    Children & adults are still vaccinated for all these diseases at some time in their life, like enrolling in school. Read history before you condemn present day people being vaccinated. The government requires vacs for all, in the public interest of keeping these old pestilences from killing everyone on earth.

    Try not to panic.

    Mishael
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Yes, we should obey the rulers that God allowed to be in place, however, when they deviate from God's moral law we should follow God, not man. We are to treat our bodies as a holy temple, so I believe that harming it is a sin and taking experimental injections is a sin, in my opinion.

    Here are 4 facts about what people currently call a pandemic:

    1. What people call a covid-19 experimental injection they call vaccine isn't a vaccine. It doesn't give immunity to it nor prevents the spread. It does not meet the normal definition of a vaccine which is why some have attempted to even change the definition of what a vaccine is. It doesn't even work.

    2. The covid-19 injection has already been reported to have injured nearly 1 million people in the USA alone, with nearly 20,000 documented/reported deaths. This is significant. Most people thought the sinking of the Titanic was a horrible disaster with around 1,500 deaths. That was an accident. We are talking about a disaster that is 13 times more deadly, but it's not an accident- People are intentionally taking this and dying! And no, they would not die otherwise- most people don't even catch covid in a given year and the few that do 99.99% recover just fine. Being underreported, if 1 million people have already died in the US from the injection would anyone care?

    3. The numbers of deaths from covid are a lie. CDC admits on their own site that only 5% of the deaths reported are from covid. The 95% are from other causes- comorbidities they call it. But they list covid as the primary cause so they get more government money.

    4. The death count from the injections is a lie. 80% of the deaths from the injection is within first 24 hrs, but they don't count that as a vaccine death, but an unvaccinated death! Not only that, they don't count all the other deaths until 14 days after injection, where 95% of the deaths have already occurred! (Source CDC)

    This is the strongest deception and delusion I've ever seen: 2 Thessalonians 2:11
  • Vaccinations - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I agree to the extent it's a personal choice. I don't know anyone who died with covid. I think being smart and being alert to safety is what works.

    I'm opposed to the companies who use fetal tissue in their shots.

    Covid isn't slowing down anyone eating at fast food restaurants. It's just a lot of controversy. I DO NOT trust the President or Falchi. They vascillate too much to be believable.

    I saw some numbers that said flu deaths are higher than covid. In Texas we have Cedar+Fever regularly (from cedar forests). It's miserable.

    The Israeli's are studying IVERMECTIN over covid vaccines. It works faster. No side effects.

    I truly think Biden allowing illegals in the country without vaccinations is going to be a very bad thing. They've been bussed all over the USA. I feel like he's deliberately doing this to cause human fatalities. We definitely need to pray him out of office.

    I don't give a flying carpet about Red or Blue Parties. We need to vote for America First.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I agree, if this was such a dangerous "pandemic" (panic with "dem" inside of it). then we would definitely be testing and requiring vaccinations for those breaking our laws be illegally crossing our border when those who come here legally are required to be vaccinated or else quarantine. I think this administration is deliberately trying to spread covid across the United States because they think their party has something to gain with the pandemic continuing, especially if it gets more "out of control" (as they would describe it). My guess is that it will die down in a year or so, because that is what happened with the other SARS viruses. I think it will continue to mutate but each mutation will weaken it, not strengthen it.

    So, as citizens we should be prepared to stand up to those who are restricting our liberty rights through mandates and other scare tactics.
  • Free - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Dear all "PAST and MODERN DAY PESTILENCE or PLAGUES".

    Soo thru.

    I am glad the the Houses of God is filled again. So the plague of viruses have turn some hearths, is it not soo? Ty all for good explanations. Love u all in Christ.

    John 1:48 Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

    Be comforted in the Holy Spirit.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    To continue._..

    Sorry I realize without follow-up, 1st response a little unclear & not finished. The "independant" 3rd party research done about Autism linked to vaccinations, found: the liquid metals within the vacs to inject, [liquid metals like mercury become fluid before 90 at 90 we can remove impurities/other ingredient out of the metal like in simple water bath] [the mercury would sink to the bottom & other ingredient would float] [that's why mercury & other metals have reproductive health warning, because of settling within lowest parts of human body, when abortion occurs, through skin etc.]

    The increase of Autism, increased in States where Vaccination was 'requried' their scientific evidence found it effected "normal' children, beforehand then Autistic after vaccination because certain individuals were not able to absorb the metals.

    Hopefully this is helpful.

    I believe Romans 8:28, Luke 12:12,

    I believe through the experiences I've been through, trained & learned it's for the good of THE BODY of CHRIST. Matthew 10:8,

    Even with that said I am not an "Anti-vaxer" I believe we have the HOLY Spirit to guide us in all things. John 16:13, however we should all have the choice.

    Just because something was helpful, beneficial in the past doesn't mean we should put faith or trust in it now or future. Psalms 118:8, PsalmS 40:40

    The most recent vaccination actually has debate because of worse ingredients (graphite, which have high heat & electrical conductivity) & other very controversial 'evil' ingredients. Psalms 106:36-39

    Proverbs 8:12
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Good day, Mishael,

    Fewer and fewer people today have were alive in the times before polio, measles, mumps, had a vaccine. Without the vaccines, most children contracted these diseases, some it was deadly or debilitating. Before antibiotics, people died of such infections as strep throat, scarlet fever, pnuemonia, etc. Before cancer treatments, people died of many curable cancers. Vaccines and medicines have saved many people from death or life long impairment. People do not have to live without relief from intense of chronic pain due to anti-inflammatories and pain relieving medications. I am thankful for so many medical treatments available today.

    So, instead of promoting fear about the covid vaccine, I chose to see it as one of many ways people can utilize to reduce their risk of infection or to treat infection. People can make their own choice about it. I think that when this all dies down in a year or so, the rhetoric will also subside as more becomes known about the vaccine and the disease.

    Right now there is so much erroneous and conflicting information out there, it is hard to really know what is the truth. But for me, I put my trust in God and go on living for Him.
  • Alan Myran - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I guess you haven't studied about ingrediants that are in the vaccines

    They are full of carcinogens neurotoxins and heavy metals. All meant to kill not help. There is even a us patent for the coronavirus.
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Alan,

    I have read on this and weighed the pros and cons. It is an individual decision whether to get vaccinated or not. I choose to be vaccinated and I know that my life is in God's hands. I am 65 and I am sure I have been exposed to carcinogens of some kind or another over my lifetime. I trust that God will have His way in my life and I rest easy in this. Thanks for the heads up. I know that there is a lot more to this "pandemic" than most people know. But God knows. I'm good with that.
  • MEAT INDUSTRY IN USA - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I totally agree with you. A friend of mine had polio as a child and her whole life she had pain all over her body.

    I had scarlet fever and was deaf for a few weeks. In 1996 I had the flu which almost killed me. By taking flu shots every fall, I've never been sick from flu again.

    In the first days of covid we were told to go get flu shots.

    When President Trump was told imported meat from China was positive for Swine Flu, He put sanctions on all meat from China. Which Pres. Biden did away with, his first weeks in office. You'd think flu shots would be promoted??

    USA crooked Meat Industry sells us infected meat; and sells American to buyers (like China) at higher prices. (They want safe meat)

    Those stories of confiscated meat that was smuggled in illegally, are on Google. I'm not making it up.

    I'm thinking it's a good idea for people to buy a living cow, buy feed for the rancher to feed it. Then have the cow slaughtered and packaged just for your table! We are so trusting
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Yea, I had the flu three years in a row. Multiple trips to Urgent care and a few to ER due to asthma complications from the flu. Last bout, March 2020 just when schools closed. I was a Kindergarten teacher and did well fighting off the flu for many years until the last three years I was in the classroom. With covid just ramping up in March of 2020,my last round of flu convinced me that I did not want to get covid if I could avoid it. I have not been back to work since then and stay home most of the time to avoid exposure. I have not had a respiratory illness since then. Praise the Lord!

    For so many, covid will be a mild infection, but for some of us, it won't be a cakewalk.

    As for the beef problem. Good to know. My brother in law raises beef and we have bought some from him over the years. may be time to do so again. Thanks for the heads up!
  • George - In Reply - 3 years ago
    The Truth is. We are all going to die.

    So the bigger question is "where will you spend eternity?"

    No-one seems concerned about this...but it is 100% fatal 100% of the time.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Yes, George, that is the more important thing people should consider if they do not know what eternity will bring for them.

    I pray that these will seek to find out soon!
  • All Glory to Jesus - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I like you George. We think the same.

    We're supposed to preach the Word; tell the parables. (Stories)

    Jesus was preaching mostly to farmers, herdsmen, fishermen. The Pharisees did not like what he preached. They had him crucified by the Romans (Pharisees too scared to do it themselves).

    Point is, we live in THESE TIMES. We need to say the same parables (stories) geared for 2120's. Most people have never seen a real cow or chicken, unless on TikTok (youtube). Facts are: China, Japan, Turkey, Russia, Iran, Rome, have mid - large earthquakes often. USGS dot COM.

    I was told Pope Benedict is sick ? Wonder who the next candidates will be? I have lots of questions.

    Praise God, we can do All Things through Christ Jesus :D

    It's one thing to roll by hundreds of scriptures; and another to preach a story with it. Yep, there's a lot of Gideon's out there hiding in the barn. The only problem is; God's not impressed with fleeces. He loves Faith.

    Do come back here often. Mishael
  • Bro dan - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen, Mishael, and GiGi.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hopefully no one is condemning anyone. John 3:18, that debate may be the question, is it out of disbelief? A deeper, individual question for oneself. Titus 3:9-11, James 5:9-10, 1 Corinthians 11:28-32

    1st I think you are incorrect about "government requirement" of all "those vaccinations" that's why there's still debates. I believe in some states they are not required. Even where they are there are debates of rights as parents & individual choices. * not a GOD Law.

    2nd Importantly if vaccination is effective; (I agree most have been)= then the hatered, animosity, & anger about freedoms shouldn't exist! Because if effective then those vaccinated have no fear, only non-vaxers would have threats in society. This is a freedom & liberty argument. Jeremiah 34:15-18, Psalms 119:45-46,

    3rd If "boomers" could say 'choice' when it came to killing millions in my generation through abortion, then my generation has choices too. Isn't that the real questions? Galatians 5:11-14,

    4th The HOLY Spirit is Amazing!!! just this morning I was reminded how painful & difficult, chicken pox were, I contracted maybe 3 times, before 8 yr of age. contracted German measles in hospital at birth. I am grateful my children through vaccination didn't contract. I believe I was reminded because I would be responding to you. Thank you LORD GOD ALMIGHTY :) John 14:26,

    5th I believed in the power of vaccinations, I was vaccinated & oldest child. I encountered studies about Autism connected to vaccination. I heard parents' arguments about anti-vax & evidence. I had next infant fuly vaccinated, didn't seem to effect us. My youngest was born & early on had several 'markers for Autism' the evidence in studies pointed to somes inability to absorb metals like Mercury & Lead in bloodstream - I had worked in Lab several years with many Chemicals, including Lead, Mercury. I was also MSDS Supervisor. Knowledge of reproductive system risks, I had to make the moral 'choice' not to vaccinate, at that time.
  • Mishael to GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I think the 20+ year old people need to hear that. It's hard to grow up in such a hostile world. I tried to demonstrate in here that aborting babies is a form of worship to Molech. Child sacrifice.

    I was shocked to read a story that said college tuition yearly increases, began after 1973 when abortions were legalized. Maybe 2 years after birth control was legal for everybody. All those dark back room stories ended there. It's the Choice people that rehash all those stories. That's all they got. You'd think worshipping an ancient deity (Demonic) like Molech would shock somebody?

    A friend from intercessory prayer group at church, asked ME!! to drive her to the Abortion Clinic to get her 7th Abortion. I begged her with tears to give birth and let me adopt her child. She said no several times. I told her I would not help her out with a ride. She moved away. Friendship over.

    We are living in times when it's easier to kill an unborn human being, than to take a pill to prevent pregnancy! All those millions of children had futures: grow up, do important things, work, pay taxes for old folks to retire. I'm 70 and I worked 48 YEARS and paid taxes.

    Leviticus 26:14-39 Give Cycles of Discipline. God wrote it and it will happen. I'll post it tomorrow.

    The Bible says kids will eat their parents; well aren't they living in basements playing video games and emptying the fridge and writing Beer on the shopping list? I hope that's just an exaggeration.

    Let us always rejoice that Jesus Chose Us. There's a whole bunch of joy and happiness just around the corner.
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Mishael,

    Well, it is strange that with all of the technical abilities we have to see inside the womb now that so many still choose to have their babies in their own wombs killed by being crushed, dismembered, cut up, burned with chemical solutions, and having their brain stem punctured. So sad, and how condemning for our society!

    Just 5 years ago my pro-choice niece became pregnant and had an ultra-sound at about 14 weeks. The ultra-sound distinctly showed her baby's hand with fingers spread apart! Now that is a witness!. Her son is now 4 and a real blessing. Don't know if any pro-choicers on that side of the family have changed their minds yet, because it is all about convenience and an attitude that children are mostly an interference in a person or couples life. So sad.

    God's ideas are always best. I pray that more will think like He does about creating new people and protecting them once He creates them.



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