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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 175746

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Lidia Smith on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    This is known as the 6th day creation ... the different races. Many people read this passage and don't realize or put emphasis on "Thus the heavens and the earth were FINISHED, and all the HOST of them". We were with God in spiritual body and were given the opportunity to become flesh on this earth as God became flesh in Christ Jesus.

    In Chpt 1:26 He was speaking to his children "Elohim" meaning God and His children)

    Chapter 1: 27 God created them simultaneously and sent them out ...He told them to be fruitful, and multiply and replenish the earth and he gave them dominion as fisherman, hunters and caretakers. (Notice he sent them out and did not place them in a certain place, garden)

    Chapter 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. Here it explains that everything was finished, plus all the host (races) of them.

    Then He states that

    2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (This is a specific man, God breathed into his nostrils...this is where Christ genealogy will come from. In the Hebrew scriptures, this man Adam is Et Ha Adam (specific man).

    If you think about it, if it was just Adam and Eve that we all came from, women would be giving birth to all different races of children now also.

    There is so much information in the book of genesis that God has given us; all we have to do is put aside what man has told us and let God speak to us as we read His word.
  • LOOK AT CREATION AND YOU WILL FIND THE ORIGINS OF COLORS - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Moses wrote the first 5 Books. He was moving around working ministering leading teaching and he had a family he was busy.

    Genesis has to be read very SLOW. Sometimes a thought in chapter 1; writes on something different. And then the thought gets picked up in the next chapter and added to the first.

    I always teach: you will need notebook and paper.

    You will GREATLY BENEFIT with a KJV Reference Bible WITH a center of each page reference column. It points to additional info, prophesies past and future; and more.

    With Moses writing it shows the leaps ahead and the resuming of an earlier statement.

    The Geneologies have references as well. Those are the most interesting stories. That's why I said make lots of notes. Hod allowed it and we must study it and understand the Bigger Picture.

    Adams name, means "red" He was ruddy skinned and maybe red-headed.

    The Bible does not speak on races. In Nimrods day everyone Spoke the same language. They were building a tower so nimrod could shoot arrows at God. The Godhead ( Romans 1) confused the languages. The people couldn't finish the tower. They migrated to other regions so they didn't have language conflicts.

    It's my OPINION, that's when skin tones changed according to other regions and sun exposure, the pigment in skin changed. You'd have to read some books on the evolvement of skin pigmentation?

    God is not a color. He is a consuming Fire. He is spirit. Jesus is Son of Man: Human and God. The Holy Spirit is Spirit.

    Satan is invisible because he is a created being; that is not HUMAN. He stole DOMINION from Adam&Eve. Jesus got it back on the Cross__because he was born human through Mary. He legally stripped Satan. Again, Satan is not human. Ephesians 6

    God likes COLORS. Look at creation!! Animals, bugs, flowers, birds, etc. You cannot accuse God for different colors of people. All colors come from the DUST God used to make MAN. It's in the DNA.

    Mishael
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi Mishael,

    Certainly the different "races" came from the descendants of Noah and family after the flood, since his family is the only people left alive after the flood. There were a few generations from the sons of Noah to the Tower of Babel incident.e

    I believe that the dispersment of peoples after the Tower of Babel was the major factor in the development of "racial" diversity among humans. I believe that God intervened in the gene pool to select out specific genes for specific groups of peoples to become dominant (i.e. eye color, air color and texture, skin tone, height, facial features). These genes wee present in Noah's DNA but God had to "turn them on" in future generations for them to manifest in certain groups.

    Genetics is pretty fascinating. I read about this "turning on or off of genetic markers". I think that God is in control of this turning on and off of certain attributes in people when he create a new person at conception.

    I have seen photos of Negroid children with blonde hair and blue eyes, Asian children with blue eyes, etc. So the genetic possibilities are there for God to select. We are all one race with the same genes that can be expressed differently to produce variants of features. These variants do not change anyone's humanness, just how they look outwardly.

    By dispersing mankind across the world, God produced such variations repeated in select people groups according to the regions they migrated to, perhaps as an aid for the peoples to adapt to the climate and environment they migrated to or as a way to distinguish one group from another when they interacted. But then again, we really cannot know God's reason for this, on'y speculate.
  • Rick - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Lidia A couple of things to consider Genesis 2:1 the word host [is tsaba or service of them] so God was done with servicing that which He did. the other usage of

    tsaba is warfare which would not fit in this context. In Genesis 1:28 God said to subdue or have control over that which

    had breath life i.e. fish animals bugs etc. no where do I see for the purpose consumption yet. Then God gives the

    purpose of why He gave vegetation in verses 29-31. If there was something other than what we currently know as

    mankind the explanation maybe what happened between genesis 1:1 and genesis 1:2 where something may have

    occurred cataclysmic which may explain dinosaurs or so called prehistoric man, which is why they can only find fossils

    because whatever was there got wiped out. This may explain the statement in our image to replenish the earth.

    But like that which Chris commented on First Adam [adam means red earth] of the earth 2nd Adam Jesus Christ.

    Just giving another perspective.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Hello Lidia. In reference to what you stated, how do you also understand Genesis 1:24,25 (God's creating the creatures/beasts of the Earth) with Genesis 2:19,20? If there were two separate creations of Man ( Genesis 1:26-29), there must of necessity also be two creations of the creatures of the Earth ( Genesis 2:19). So, why do you think that would be? Maybe God wanted to add more creatures to fill the Earth? Or maybe, one can be justified to believe that the creation of living, moving creatures & man of chapter 1 have a direct bearing on their reference again in chapter 2?

    And the second problem: the Apostle Paul speaks of the first man Adam ( 1 Corinthians 15:45) as opposed to the last Adam (Christ), a quickening (life-giving) spirit. This would be incorrect, as according to some folk's understanding, that Adam was not the first man at all & there were other human (& animal) creations before them. The question that comes to bare upon is, why were those 'first' created beings not referenced in any other way; did they get lost into oblivion, God showing them no care, except upon this special second creation of Adam & Eve?

    The third problem: we have the sin question coming up as well. If we see Adam & Eve commit sin & that sin nature transmitted to all mankind as a result, was that first creation of mankind spared from being caught up in Satan's snare? I say 'spared', as no doubt, in time, Adam's sin would have eventually passed onto them through inter-marriage. And if so, maybe the Great Flood didn't engulf them, as the Flood was God's Wrath upon a faithless, God-forsaking world.

    I realize that we don't have answers to such questions, but they are worth considering in light of our separate understandings of this Genesis account & what other questions are raised that should cause us to examine our beliefs & utterances. If there's little support for the 'one creation only' belief, there would also be little support of a 'dual creation' belief, don't you think?



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