Bible Discussion Thread

Gi Gi gbu but you are not reading your bible completely to understand water baptism. Jesus knew that all of his disciples

had been water baptised but he warns them if I wash thee not you will have no part with me which speaks volumes of a greater baptism of the .H.G that originated from his blood the CROSS . There is only 1 baptism of Promise which is baptism of the H.G , Behold I send the Promise of my father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. NOT WATER BAPTISM, Just think of that he tells his own disciples if i wash thee not you will have no part with me and they had all been water baptised prevously .

Alex The reason he's being of service to them in the last upper is to be an example to them how they will need

to love and serve each other when He's gone. Also it's a great reminder of what believers are supposed to be doing

in the church of God amongst ourselves then reaching out to others. The attraction will be the love agapeo[of God]

they see. Jesus Christ ate drank and breathed love and service to others pointing to God.

Rick,

Sorry, John 13:6, not Matthew.

Jesse Brother I was told something long time ago by a cool brother, he never sees error, he always

sees potential for change and growth. Thought that was a great statement! By the way nice comment!

Jesse That wasn't specifically addressed to you by the way.

Hi Rick,

No worries. I didn't take it that way. In fact, I completely agree with what you said.

Brother Rick,

Amen to that! Jesus was teaching His disciples about humility. History tells us that household slaves did the job of foot washing, but not a Hebrew or Jewish person. Even if a Hebrew or Jewish person was a slave, they did not lower themselves to wash someone's feet.

Now can you imagine Jesus getting ready to wash the disciples' feet, and that it was a shame and an embarrassment for a Hebrew slave to do that task? It had to be somebody else other than a Hebrew slave that would wash the guests' feet.

So now here's Jesus approaching Simon Peter in Matthew 13:6, and He's getting ready to wash Peter's feet. And Peter wasn't having anything to do with it. In Peter's mind, he's probably thinking that Jesus, being a Jew, he cannot wash anyone's feet. That's the job of a slave, a servant. Peter says in verse 8 "You shall never wash my feet."

Peter is not trying to be rebellious. He is trying to be courteous in the sense that first of all, no Jew should be washing anyone's feet! But Jesus Himself, the Master, the Rabbi is doing it? Peter says "You are never going to wash my feet." Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.

So Jesus is teaching humility. Jesus is taking the "low-road" in the form of a servant. And as you say, Jesus is setting the example on how they will need to love and serve each other when He's gone. Jesus says in John 13:15, "For I have given you an (example), that ye should do as I have done to you.

What I notice is that Jesus did not say that you should do "what I have done" to you, but you should do "as I have done" to you. He is saying that I took the position and function, the menial task, the lowest task that even a Jewish or Hebrew person would not even do, even if they were a slave, and this is what you are to do for one another. Humility!

Our brothers and sisters in Christ must come first, even before ourselves. That's what it's all about!

Jesse, agreed. I think this example is how we will "reign" with Christ (as humble servants to one another).

Brother I'm convinced that if you don't get into culture background and language of the times of the

scriptures you miss out on a lot of understanding of what God is communicating, that's just my opinion.

One example I looked at recently old testament Proverb 6:32 the word understanding =heart that puts an

entirely different importance of the result of act committed. Good Stuff!