G G Try to understand that Jesus always existed but he had to make his Debut in humanity via the seed which was the living word sown in the womb of Mary, As Jesus was the Word made flesh and blood.
Likewise the H.G. always existed but he has to make his debut in humanity via that good seed of Jesus Which is that
Seed of Promise . Every Godly seed is gonna get a body, Our body, As our bodies are the Temple OF THE H.G. Thats
y Jesus has to be glorified that we might all be given the H.G. VIA THAT GOOD SEED......The contents of the book the words of life. Thus Jesus is truly the father of the H.G. SIMPLY B/C THE H.G. HAS TO BE BORN IN US VIA HIS SEED ....YOUR BODIES ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE H.G.
When Jesus said b/f Abraham was i am means he always existed in the SPIRIT....
LIKEWISE THE H.G. ALWAYS EXISTED. But he has to make his debut in humanity via the seed of Jesus.
Thats y Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G....The child of PROMISE...That is Gona be born in us via his seed the living word.....My lil Children of whom i travail in birth tii Christ is formed in you. Gal 4 : 19 KJV
Thats y i keep telling ya that the Godhead is FATHER SON AND GRANSON JUST LIKE ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB.....
and Jesse David and Solomon....And Jesus tells us i am the root and the offspring of DAVID ...Father Son and Granson.
Alex, again some of what you state here is correct, but some of it is not. I do not believe that Jesus is the Father of the Holy Spirit. The only Son eternally begotten of God is Jesus. The Word never calls the Holy Spirit the Son of the Son of God nor the grandson of the Father.
When you talk about "what is born of the Spirit is spirit, it is not talking about the Spirit birthing Himself. It is speaking of the new spiritual nature we receive at conversion from God. It is in this new nature that the Spirit dwells in us. This new nature is not divine nor the Person of the Holy Spirit. It is as you said, "the temple of the Holy Spirit" The divine Person of the Holy Spirit cannot dwell within a sinful nature, but can dwell in our new holy spiritual nature.
There is a difference between what I am saying and what you continue to speak about. Your view exalts and deifies believers; my view exalts God and acknowledge that through Christ we have a new holy nature in which God can dwell.
Gi Gi Jesus refers to Satan being the Father of the tares , b/c Satan is the one who sows the tares. Matthew 13 : 39 kjv.
Thus Christ is the one who sows the wheat thus its Christ who is the Father of the wheat and the Wheat is the H.G. simply b/c that good seed is the living WORD...Remember Jesus said he that soweth the good seed is the Son of MAN Thus the Son of man is the FATHER OF THE Child the H.G. As the Sower of that good seed is also the Bridegroom , THE FIELD is the
world, humanity as GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD. Thus we have to realize there is a Child involved in our salvation which is a spritual Child, Thats y Isaiah refers to Christ as everlasting Father he is the Father of the H.G. Thus Jesus is gonna multiply himself in humanity...That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y he
said Behold i send the Promise of my FATHER upon you which was baptism of the H.G. The birth of a new Innerman which is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE, the multiplication of Christ in humanity, via his seed....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receives ME...Kings shall be your nursing Fathers and Queens shall be your nursing Mothers ,Thats y he refers to himself as the Son of MAN, HUMANITY IS GONNA HAVE A BABY. But these things are HID from the wise and prudent BUT REVEALED UNTO BABES. The babes and suckling he mentioned so often his CHILDREN. THAT ARE GONNA BE BORN IN US SINNERS. GBU
In your post you again state that it is the Holy Ghost that is birthed in a person, but this is false. The Word states that it is US the are REborn, not the Holy Spirit.
God created mankind with a three fold nature, body, soul, and spirit. All of these aspects of nature are human, none of it is divine. When Adam was created all three aspects of our nature were alive to God. When Adam sinned his spirit nature died to God, but his body and soul were still alive. Subsequently, all humanity descended from Adam with his post-sin three-fold nature from conception on. It is the spirit aspect of a human's nature that is reborn when the Holy Spirit regenerates a person with the Word of the gospel and power of God. As Jesus said, "you must be born again" to Nicodemus, He was speaking about the rebirth of the spirit nature in man to be made alive to God, and then the man is complete and restored to the original creation.
When this created spirit aspect of our nature is regenerated by the Holy Spirit, it is the holy aspect of our being in which the Spirit can dwell and influence and empower the body and soul to say no to sin and yes to what is right. It is this alive-to-God reborn spiritual nature in each believer that communes with God as we know Him by faith.
When we are resurrected, our body, soul, will be changed (glorified) to become sin-free and incorruptible as our spirit already is since its rebirth. This is called the redemption of our bodies. The new creation that is spoken of is the rebirth of a holy spiritual nature in us that was dead before the Holy Spirit acted upon us to regenerate this aspect of our nature. This new creation (holy spiritual nature) is our "down payment" on the future complete salvation of our whole person, body, soul, and spirit.
No part of us becomes divine. That is an age old heresy. But we are gloriously welcomed into the closest fellowship any creature can have with the Godhead, likened to a marriage
Likewise the H.G. always existed but he has to make his debut in humanity via that good seed of Jesus Which is that
Seed of Promise . Every Godly seed is gonna get a body, Our body, As our bodies are the Temple OF THE H.G. Thats
y Jesus has to be glorified that we might all be given the H.G. VIA THAT GOOD SEED......The contents of the book the words of life. Thus Jesus is truly the father of the H.G. SIMPLY B/C THE H.G. HAS TO BE BORN IN US VIA HIS SEED ....YOUR BODIES ARE THE TEMPLE OF THE H.G.
When Jesus said b/f Abraham was i am means he always existed in the SPIRIT....
LIKEWISE THE H.G. ALWAYS EXISTED. But he has to make his debut in humanity via the seed of Jesus.
Thats y Jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G....The child of PROMISE...That is Gona be born in us via his seed the living word.....My lil Children of whom i travail in birth tii Christ is formed in you. Gal 4 : 19 KJV
Thats y i keep telling ya that the Godhead is FATHER SON AND GRANSON JUST LIKE ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB.....
and Jesse David and Solomon....And Jesus tells us i am the root and the offspring of DAVID ...Father Son and Granson.
E of the H.G.
When you talk about "what is born of the Spirit is spirit, it is not talking about the Spirit birthing Himself. It is speaking of the new spiritual nature we receive at conversion from God. It is in this new nature that the Spirit dwells in us. This new nature is not divine nor the Person of the Holy Spirit. It is as you said, "the temple of the Holy Spirit" The divine Person of the Holy Spirit cannot dwell within a sinful nature, but can dwell in our new holy spiritual nature.
There is a difference between what I am saying and what you continue to speak about. Your view exalts and deifies believers; my view exalts God and acknowledge that through Christ we have a new holy nature in which God can dwell.
Thus Christ is the one who sows the wheat thus its Christ who is the Father of the wheat and the Wheat is the H.G. simply b/c that good seed is the living WORD...Remember Jesus said he that soweth the good seed is the Son of MAN Thus the Son of man is the FATHER OF THE Child the H.G. As the Sower of that good seed is also the Bridegroom , THE FIELD is the
world, humanity as GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD. Thus we have to realize there is a Child involved in our salvation which is a spritual Child, Thats y Isaiah refers to Christ as everlasting Father he is the Father of the H.G. Thus Jesus is gonna multiply himself in humanity...That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y he
said Behold i send the Promise of my FATHER upon you which was baptism of the H.G. The birth of a new Innerman which is the H.G. the Child of PROMISE, the multiplication of Christ in humanity, via his seed....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receives ME...Kings shall be your nursing Fathers and Queens shall be your nursing Mothers ,Thats y he refers to himself as the Son of MAN, HUMANITY IS GONNA HAVE A BABY. But these things are HID from the wise and prudent BUT REVEALED UNTO BABES. The babes and suckling he mentioned so often his CHILDREN. THAT ARE GONNA BE BORN IN US SINNERS. GBU
In your post you again state that it is the Holy Ghost that is birthed in a person, but this is false. The Word states that it is US the are REborn, not the Holy Spirit.
God created mankind with a three fold nature, body, soul, and spirit. All of these aspects of nature are human, none of it is divine. When Adam was created all three aspects of our nature were alive to God. When Adam sinned his spirit nature died to God, but his body and soul were still alive. Subsequently, all humanity descended from Adam with his post-sin three-fold nature from conception on. It is the spirit aspect of a human's nature that is reborn when the Holy Spirit regenerates a person with the Word of the gospel and power of God. As Jesus said, "you must be born again" to Nicodemus, He was speaking about the rebirth of the spirit nature in man to be made alive to God, and then the man is complete and restored to the original creation.
When this created spirit aspect of our nature is regenerated by the Holy Spirit, it is the holy aspect of our being in which the Spirit can dwell and influence and empower the body and soul to say no to sin and yes to what is right. It is this alive-to-God reborn spiritual nature in each believer that communes with God as we know Him by faith.
When we are resurrected, our body, soul, will be changed (glorified) to become sin-free and incorruptible as our spirit already is since its rebirth. This is called the redemption of our bodies. The new creation that is spoken of is the rebirth of a holy spiritual nature in us that was dead before the Holy Spirit acted upon us to regenerate this aspect of our nature. This new creation (holy spiritual nature) is our "down payment" on the future complete salvation of our whole person, body, soul, and spirit.
No part of us becomes divine. That is an age old heresy. But we are gloriously welcomed into the closest fellowship any creature can have with the Godhead, likened to a marriage
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