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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 176366

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  • Donna - 3 years ago
    I have family members who are currently on drugs. They are also homeless. I want to be merciful and a good Christian but every time I let them stay in my home something bad happens. I struggle between wanting to do God's will by allowing the needy to stay with me and taking care of myself and making sure that there are no bad things happening in my space. Am I wrong? I'm not looking for the answer that feels best I'm looking for the answer that's right so please don't hesitate to throw me a scripture. I have been praying for these family members. But there's a little matter of free will. And it appears that they don't really want to get off drugs. I'm not being judge mental because I've had my own past with drugs. But I have chosen to not use. And God delivered me.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Here's a good testimony, but it isn't mine. I just talked to my friend of 4 decades and she relayed to me that they missed a turn on the road and went airborne 7 feet in the are for 20 feet or so, landed right side up without rolling, and skid to a stop after about 100 feet. Walked away wit just a few bruises and sore muscles. The car was towed and is driveable. What a wonderful miracle! I guess God sent those "eagles wings" to guide their car to a safe stop. I am so happy. I could have lost these dear friends. So I am very thankful today!
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Oh and I forgot, Those "eagles" stopped the car 3 feet from a phone pole that they would have struck head-on if God had not stood in from of the pole and put His invisible "hand" out to stop the car. (or His angels). whatever God did, it saved my friends lives last Sunday. They are strong believers and are ready to meet Jesus, but I am thankful they escaped harm and I get more time with them. We have stuck by each other through thick and thin and their companionship is very valued. We are blessed!
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna, I have not as of yet. When the Lord leads me to do so on the testimony page, I will. I have posted some responses that recall some of the amazing things that God has done in my life, but I don't tend to do that much. I prefer to share what I have learned from a lifetime of walking with the Lord. I am 65 and have known Jesus all of my life. I so wanted to only know the truth that I began reading the Bible for myself at age 9 because I knew that it was the true words of God. From then on I continued to pray to God to show me what is true about Him and spiritual matters.

    Funny thing, I stopped reading fiction at that time (5th grade) because I only wanted to read what is true. I instead read non-fiction-science books, biographies, encyclopedias, dictionary, besides the Bible. Not saying this as a recommendation, because I kind of missed out on many classic children's novels of the time. Some of them I eventually read as an adult training to be a teacher or as a mom. But I know that God put this desire for "the truth, and noting but the truth" in me and He as guided me and guarded me over the years so that I was not readily sucked into the newest "fad" idea in church circles over the years. I was raised in a traditional mainline church. In college and beyond my husband and I participated in Assemblies of God and Four Square church fellowships until the late 1990's. then God led us into a Covenant church for a while, and then we were called back to my husband's roots in a conservative Missouri Synod Lutheran Church, which we still have some affiliation with, although covid has kept us pretty much homebodies because I have 5 high risk factors. I have had times were I was involved in regular church fellowship and times when I was "in between" for a 5-7 years at a time. In all of these circumstances, God has been faithful to stay with me and lead me in the right paths. My life over all would sound pretty boring to most people. But I am fine with that.
  • Mario G. Garcia Jr - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I said please let us help you want knows to be humble or something like that them good Bible book discharation word on the house and Bible study tonight or bible study jame version of Evidence of my friends.thank you so much !
  • Donna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    GiGi, that's an amazing testimony! Thank You!
  • Donna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    It's Christmas, and it's cold outside, and so many people are dying of drug overdoses and drug related murders. I pray that God would help them to repent so they could come in from the cold and be warm and fed and have hope in peace in Jesus name amen
  • Donna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Thank you. I cried reading your reply. That's all I want is for my home to be a sanctuary where the Lord can live. I have had my own issues with drugs and I am sober and clean by choice. Is it easy not always. Is it possible yes. It breaks my heart because my family is so messed up from years of drug abuse and codependency that when I ask for some rules and boundaries I am treated like a bad person and made to feel guilty. Or even accused of lying. But I hurt because I want to help and be merciful I want to show the same mercy that I want from God for myself but if I gave them a full reign it would be a dope house here. Full of drugs and lies porn and demons. I have always had a hard time with boundaries and letting people walk on me. I don't want to enable people anymore and it's really hard. God delivered me from cigarettes drugs pills promiscuity lies demons you name it. I'm not getting any younger in life without God isn't worth living. Please pray for me that God will show me what I'm doing by putting up boundaries is the right thing
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna Biblically there is a point where you don't give pearls to the swine, or in a nutshell tough love!

    Years age a friend of mine got into dope, then got born again changed for awhile then I got a phone call

    picked him up cleaned Him up ministered to Him and told Him very point blank. First and great commandment

    with promise Love God with all your Heart soul mind and strength and love thy neighbor as thyself so is you don't

    Love God you are not loving your own life. I had him move in with me and told Him any trace of abuse and your

    history, three days later I met Him in the hallway with His suitcase a he was leaving because he broke His word.

    I hugged Him and I knew and told Him dope will kill him, two years later He was dead. God will do everything to

    deliver anyone BUT THEY HAVE TO WANT IT! You need to dismiss yourself from the situation or it will suck you

    in or consume you so to speak. We have been made free in Christ don't let someone's else's bondage affect

    your walk with God. NOTHING IS WORTH THAT P.S. SPIRIT IS THICKER THAN BLOOD! IT I WRITTEN

    MATHEW 12:47-50.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna, I noticed your post and sounds like you're looking for others' input. I'm happy to share my perspective based on what you shared.

    First, it sounds like you really love your family and have a caring heart. You care enough to post and ask for help because you so badly want to help them, but you know from past experience it simply hasn't worked out well. That's very unfortunate, but you haven't done anything wrong. You tried and it didn't work. It sounds like they took advantage or didin't respect you, your authority or rules, nor your house.

    It's my opinion that people who misbehave either as a child or later as an adult often do so, because they didn't have good role models in their life. I think kids and later as adults might look for weakness and to take advantage of others, when what they need the most (although they don't realize it) is some tough love with rules, boundaries, and consequences. Just as a loving parent shouldn't let their kids rule the house, eat unlimited candy, live in filth, etc. They love them enough to discipline them and teach them things even if it means saying NO and seeing them cry temporarily.

    I think the same is true for adults. And those who are caught in this dillemna of wanting to show love but not liking what they do, keep hoping they'll change, but they never do, and it always results in disappointment. I personally think its wrong to enable them and that saying NO might be the best thing for them at times. They must change their behavior and follow very clear and specifc rules in order to be on your turf, otherwise, its their own choice and fault if they don't do that. You can still be loving and show love in other ways while also not letting someone take advantage of you. I would never let someone do drugs in or around my property- that doesn't honor God. My house will not be a den of satan for people to engage in sin, but should be a sacred place shielded from it.

    Hope that is helpful.
  • Donna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Adam thank you. Your reply was very helpful also. Still crying! I appreciate you saying that my people make me feel bad for asking anything of them. I don't want that in my house anymore. They are not respecting me or God. God helped me to repent from sin, literally turn away from it, and delivered me from addictions in my life. I'm still not 100% perfect. Every time I think I have complete victory He shows me something else Lol. But I'm at the point where I'm willing to submit to God and let him have his way in my life I don't want to do my own thing anymore or do it my way. My way never works. Now I can truly say of the Lord is my shepherd
  • GiGi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Donna, I will pray for you. I have had this problem with family members growing up.

    Holy Lord, I lift up Donna to you today. Please give here wisdom and clear guidance on how to approach the problems she is having with those who are using drugs and in need, but mistreat her when she gives help to them. Lord, fill her with peace and strength to do what is necessary to stop the cycle here. Lord, I lift up those she is dealing with. Deliver them from drug dependency and the stronghold the enemy has on them through drugs. Send people these users besides Donna

    who can help them with their need to get clean and sober. Convince these drug users of their need for a change and give them a willingness to take up the offers they receive to receive proper treatment. Lead them to life everlasting in You, Lord, Jesus. We pray this in Your name, Jesus. Amen.
  • Donna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    GiGi, I just got the most amazing confirmation to prayer being answered and I have to tell you. About 1:30 PM California time today, The Holy Spirit came down in my house and I prayed and cried out to the Lord with such a burden I didn't understand why the Lord was moving that way is sort of unusual. And I was just checking responses for my text question I'm Christian living today and there was this response from you so I checked the time and it was about the same time that you were praying for me. So I just want to say thank you and I want to praise God for still answering prayer. I believe God was showing me something special. Thank you thank you. If he moved in my living room that way? Then anything is possible. The Holy Spirit was moving me to pray with a burden a heavy burden at the same time you were lifting me up in prayer
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Donna, that is wonderful! Thank you for sharing with me. God is faithful to work good things in your life out of the things that are bad. And so it begins!
  • Donna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    GiGi, just wondering if you've ever posted any testimonies? I would be interested in reading them.



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