What about a discussion of Mark 12:29? I find it interesting, after the scribe (verse 28) asks the important question, "What is the greatest commandment?", that there is seldom commentary regarding the actual answer (verse 29): "Jesus answered him saying, 'The greatest commandment is know, O Israel, the Lord OUR God is one Lord."
Discussion here completely omits any dialog about this verse about the answer Jesus gives him the clear and true meaning gets left out by saying, ".. the great commandment, which indeed includes all, is, that of loving God with all our hearts." What it also "includes" is the great commandment [quote]: "Jesus answered him saying, 'The greatest commandment is know, O Israel, the Lord OUR GOD is ONE Lord' (emphasis added).
Jesus is including himself with "OUR GOD" and why would he say "ONE" Lord, instead of trinity.
Also, if the word 'Trinity' is nowhere in the Bible . . . what can we think about that?
Thank you so much for opening up my mind and heart to consider the possibility of learning how to think for myself - instead of thinking what I'm told to think.
I love the beautiful way the Bible still tells it like it is, when it comes to monotheism.
One God.
Him I really want love with all my heart, mind, soul and spirit. Yes, I want to pray to the same God Jesus prayed to.
Mark12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
John.10:30 I and my Father are one.
John.17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Rom.12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
1Cor.3::8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
1Cor.10:17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
1Cor.12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1John.5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matt.19:5-6 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
John.17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 17:2-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Are we one, are we of one heart, are we of one accord, are we members in one body, are we of one mind, are we of one faith, if we are in Jesus, are we not all one?
"None that hath understanding above the Highest" there is no doubt or darkness in truth, and if we put our faith and trust in Him, we shall understand the truth through the Spirit sent in the name of His Son Jesus.
The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. Jesus is all human and all God. Satan is a created being. He has no authority as a result from Jesus dying on the cross for The World.
{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.
28-34 Those who sincerely desire to be taught their duty, Christ will guide in judgment, and teach his way. He tells the scribe that the great commandment, which indeed includes all, is, that of loving God with all our hearts. Wherever this is the ruling principle in the soul, there is a disposition to every other duty. Loving God with all our heart, will engage us to every thing by which he will be pleased. The sacrifices only represented the atonements for men's transgressions of the moral law; they were of no power except as they expressed repentance and faith in the promised Saviour, and as they led to moral obedience. And because we have not thus loved God and man, but the very reverse, therefore we are condemned sinners; we need repentance, and we need mercy. Christ approved what the scribe said, and encouraged him. He stood fair for further advance; for this knowledge of the law leads to conviction of sin, to repentance, to discovery of our need of mercy, and understanding the way of justification by Christ.
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Hello Joseph. That is a great verse couplet ( Mark 12:29,30), which needed no explanation from Jesus, as every Jew had that those words indelibly etched in their minds. This is what they refer to as the "Shema", which means 'Hear' in Hebrew. What Jesus did add, was verse 31, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." And to this declaration, the Scribe/Lawyer clearly affirmed Jesus' Words, to which Jesus perceived that the man was "not far from the kingdom of God". Muslims also have a common declaration which is always repeated, known as the Shahada, but it doesn't bear repeating here because of its content.
However, I don't believe that Jesus was inferring the Trinity, or His Deity, by quoting the Shema. Jesus somewhat veiled this aspect of His Divinity, though never denying any outburst from the religious leaders for His 'blasphemous claims' (e.g. Matthew 26:59-65; John 10:30-38). I think that when certain spiritual eyes were opened, they were able to know from the Words of Jesus & the demonstration of His Life & Works, that this was no ordinary Man, however blessed He might be from God. This was One they had never encountered before: might they be standing before, seeing & listening to God Himself, now come to them in human form to bring light & hope to their darkened souls? When we read the Gospels, we see clearly this conflict amongst many who came before Him; many hated Him & wanted to dispose of Him - others realized the Messiah of God had come for their sakes & they'd better pay attention to Him.
And even though the word 'trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures, all the references to that point to Jesus' presence with God & part of the Godhead ( John 3:13; John 6:38; Colossians 2:9; John 1:1-14; John 10:30; Colossians 1:15-17; & many more), give us undeniable proof of Him & His Words. Only the Christ from God could fully pay the price for our sins, securing our redemption.
Discussion here completely omits any dialog about this verse about the answer Jesus gives him the clear and true meaning gets left out by saying, ".. the great commandment, which indeed includes all, is, that of loving God with all our hearts." What it also "includes" is the great commandment [quote]: "Jesus answered him saying, 'The greatest commandment is know, O Israel, the Lord OUR GOD is ONE Lord' (emphasis added).
Jesus is including himself with "OUR GOD" and why would he say "ONE" Lord, instead of trinity.
Also, if the word 'Trinity' is nowhere in the Bible . . . what can we think about that?
Thank you so much for opening up my mind and heart to consider the possibility of learning how to think for myself - instead of thinking what I'm told to think.
I love the beautiful way the Bible still tells it like it is, when it comes to monotheism.
One God.
Him I really want love with all my heart, mind, soul and spirit. Yes, I want to pray to the same God Jesus prayed to.
spiritually nice eh.
Mark12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
John.10:30 I and my Father are one.
John.17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
Rom.12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
1Cor.3::8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
1Cor.10:17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
1Cor.12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1John.5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Matt.19:5-6 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
John.17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 17:2-23 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
Are we one, are we of one heart, are we of one accord, are we members in one body, are we of one mind, are we of one faith, if we are in Jesus, are we not all one?
God bless,
RLW
"None that hath understanding above the Highest" there is no doubt or darkness in truth, and if we put our faith and trust in Him, we shall understand the truth through the Spirit sent in the name of His Son Jesus.
God bless,
RLW
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. Jesus is all human and all God. Satan is a created being. He has no authority as a result from Jesus dying on the cross for The World.
{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first.
MARK 12:28-34
28-34 Those who sincerely desire to be taught their duty, Christ will guide in judgment, and teach his way. He tells the scribe that the great commandment, which indeed includes all, is, that of loving God with all our hearts. Wherever this is the ruling principle in the soul, there is a disposition to every other duty. Loving God with all our heart, will engage us to every thing by which he will be pleased. The sacrifices only represented the atonements for men's transgressions of the moral law; they were of no power except as they expressed repentance and faith in the promised Saviour, and as they led to moral obedience. And because we have not thus loved God and man, but the very reverse, therefore we are condemned sinners; we need repentance, and we need mercy. Christ approved what the scribe said, and encouraged him. He stood fair for further advance; for this knowledge of the law leads to conviction of sin, to repentance, to discovery of our need of mercy, and understanding the way of justification by Christ.
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Mark 12:28-34, Bible Commentaries
the four main areas self others religion man made or environment{last one nature} all but
the one true god.
However, I don't believe that Jesus was inferring the Trinity, or His Deity, by quoting the Shema. Jesus somewhat veiled this aspect of His Divinity, though never denying any outburst from the religious leaders for His 'blasphemous claims' (e.g. Matthew 26:59-65; John 10:30-38). I think that when certain spiritual eyes were opened, they were able to know from the Words of Jesus & the demonstration of His Life & Works, that this was no ordinary Man, however blessed He might be from God. This was One they had never encountered before: might they be standing before, seeing & listening to God Himself, now come to them in human form to bring light & hope to their darkened souls? When we read the Gospels, we see clearly this conflict amongst many who came before Him; many hated Him & wanted to dispose of Him - others realized the Messiah of God had come for their sakes & they'd better pay attention to Him.
And even though the word 'trinity' is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures, all the references to that point to Jesus' presence with God & part of the Godhead ( John 3:13; John 6:38; Colossians 2:9; John 1:1-14; John 10:30; Colossians 1:15-17; & many more), give us undeniable proof of Him & His Words. Only the Christ from God could fully pay the price for our sins, securing our redemption.
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