In Mark10:40 Why does Jesus say to James and John To sit on his right hand and on his left hand is not his to give? Who's is it to give? I'm not asking who it shall be given to, I'm asking who's is it to give?
Hi Donna. I believe that Jesus was speaking in His Humanity, subservient to His Father in all things. Even though Jesus could also state elsewhere ( John 14:1-3), that when He returns to Heaven, He will be preparing a place for them, it seems that there were events (present & future) that He had authority over & there were some events He was not privy to (e.g. the time of His Return: Mark 13:32). So, Jesus is stating here that the authority to grant a position in Heaven didn't rest with Him but with the Father.
That settles it then. How can Jesus be God? I believe everything the Bible says. I believe in the unity of the trinity. I believe that they're unified and have been together from the beginning. I believe that Jesus will come back. I believe Jesus will be in the midst of the new Jerusalem. Where will God be? The HG?
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Matthew 1:23 KJV - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
John 1:1-3 KJV - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Revelation 19:11-16 KJV - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJV - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Hebrews 1:8 KJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"Word was God"
It flat out says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14 and onward. It also calls Jesus God in other scripture too, so one has to deny much of the Bible in order to deny Jesus's divinity. Why are people so motivated to deny Jesus, one might ask? Matthew 10:32-33
The Word was God literally means the Word was God. It doesn't say the Word wasn't God. It doesn't say the Word was a different God. It doesn't say the Word was God the father. It doesn't say was kind of a God, but not really. People seem to really enjoy twisting this and trying hard to make it mean something else, but it doesn't mean something else. The Word was God still means the "Word was God." It cannot be denied what it so clearly says.
I heard someone who seemed motivated to not want Jesus to be his Lord or God go on to say that the Word didn't mean Jesus and wanted it to mean the Bible. But that person forgot that the Bible already says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14. It again calls Jesus the Word in Revelation 19:13.
So, all the other speculation doesn't really matter. People's devised human arguments in order to rationalize or distort to fit what one wants to believe is all irrelevant. The fact is John 1:1 says Jesus is God and the real question is does someone believe in the Bible as God's word or not? I choose to believe it. I hope others do too. Satan loves deceiving and tricking people into rationalizing away and cherry picking certain things over others.
1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18, (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8. John 20:28.
There are spiritual forces at work trying to deceive and twist and misinterpret. Beware of false teachers. The Bible already says what it means. Do we choose to believe and trust?
Witness of the bible and of the church from apostolic times onward.
The idea that Jesus is not God has been refuted repeatedly over the centuries and determined to be heresy again and again.
But I these days, this view flourishes because the church is so fractured that the authorities voice of orthodoxy has lost its effect as we are in a time where each person and sect chooses their own version of doctrines they accept as "truth" and minds have been blinded to the Truth of Scriptures, as you so clearly pointed out.
Those who deny that Jesus is God are deceived by "false teachers" the same as those who deny that He came in the flesh 1John 4:1-4 and have the spirit of the Antichrist.
1John 5:9-12 goes on to tell us that the witness of God is greater than the witness of men. Those who do not believe the witness of God
(In 1John 7-8) are calling God a liar.
I feel sad for those who have been deceived by refusing to believe that Jesus is God and that The Godhead consists of three Persons that are unified as One God. We can pray for them and give testimony to the truth as you have done .
Yes, I think 2 Timothy 4:3 may explain some of this. It seems to be a recent organized attack campaign on Jesus and His followers to distort and deceive and there's an odd allegiance and motivation by those pushing it get others to believe the same. It's truth vs lie and we know who is behind it. John 8:44.
In researching, o have found that the past few hundred years has produced a large number of sects within sects, do yo speak as new denominations splinter further and further into independent churches. I believe that many of these continue to wander further and further from the tenets of the church established b the apostles and preserve through the centuries. The doctrines of Jesus have suffered greatly as many espouse that he was just human, not God, though perfect. Or that he was human but became A God by being perfect in this life. Or that h came into being at his conception instead of being eternally existent with the Father. Or that he shed his humanity when he ascended to heaven, returning upbringing only the Son of God, a Spirit only, and no longer the Sin of Man, too.
All of these beliefs have been repeatedly refuted by the church from the first centuries on and determined to be heresy. But unfortunately, many people in this age do
Not have a historical foundation to set their beliefs upon. They just believe what their pastor, friends, church, teach or what they themselves have deduced from their reading if Scripture. That is a danger of having self be the sole determiner of scriptural interpretation.
I think many people are deceived by these false teachings , but they are not purposely being so. They have unfortunately listened to errant preachers and teachers. Yet, even so, their minds are often closed to considering any correction from others outside their sphere of influence even when shown by Scripture as you and others have done here.
So, when I read posts that espouse errant views, I do
Pray for these people along with speaking and supporting othodox views that have stood the test of Scriptute and time.
Thank you for your defense of this teaching in the Bible. Those who believe that Jesus is God along with the Father and with the Spirit have the witness of the B
Sorry the phone thinks that it can "correct" what I type but often doesn't do so correctly and on top of that my letter buttons are very small, so I make too many mistakes. Grrrr,
Donna. I believe that God is One and will always BE Who He is. In Revelation chapter 22, we read of the New Jerusalem, where God & the Lamb are both seen in several verses. Before Jesus' incarnation (i.e. the Word of God sent to Earth to become man), He was God's Word ( John 1:1) just as the Spirit of God was within the Godhead. God sent out both His Word & His Spirit to instigate & fulfil His Plan for mankind. The fact that the Word became flesh ( John 1:1-14), means that as Jesus was raised from the dead & ascended into Heaven as a Man, He will always remain as that part of God Who reigns in Heaven as the Lamb Who was slain.
We could (maybe foolishly) ask the question, 'why doesn't God then 're-constitute' Jesus to shed His glorified flesh & return Him back to being the Word within the Godhead?' Jesus is still God's Word ( Revelation 19:11-16), but now in flesh, & will probably evermore be what the Father planned: His eternal Witness of God sacrificing Himself, but now reigning as "King of kings and Lord of lords" ( Revelation 19:16): as Israel's promised Supreme Messiah-King, the Root & Offspring of David ( Revelation 22:16), & also of those Gentiles who have been saved because of faith in the Messiah of God. Therefore, in these final chapters of Revelation, we see both God, His Son (Word made flesh), & the Holy Spirit ( Revelation 4:5, 'the seven-fold Spirit of God' and Revelation 22:17) - neither ceasing to be within the Godhead, yet remaining both a physical & spiritual Presence of God as God has determined of Himself.
God is not the God of confusion; I pray that you are led by the Spirit of truth and are delivered from the confusion that man is so good at. I will only address the one part, about the temple in the New City. If you read Revelation 21:22-23 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
The Holy Spirit is not spoken of. My understanding that many may disagree, God and Jesus will be among us and there will be no need to communicate through the spirit because we will be faced to face.
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Revelation 22:3-4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
You must with prayer come to your own understanding of the trinity doctrine and if scripture truly supports it, be led by the Spirit of truth.
Matthew 20:23 answers your question quite plainly, God the Father has prepared a seat on His right hand for His Son Jesus,
Matthew 20:23 "And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father."
Mark 10:40 "But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared."
Mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."
Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."
Luke 22:24-30 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;" "That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Matthew 1:23 KJV - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
John 1:1-3 KJV - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Isaiah 9:6 KJV - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Revelation 19:11-16 KJV - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJV - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Hebrews 1:8 KJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
The Bible flat out says Jesus is God in John 1:1.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
"Word was God"
It flat out says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14 and onward. It also calls Jesus God in other scripture too, so one has to deny much of the Bible in order to deny Jesus's divinity. Why are people so motivated to deny Jesus, one might ask? Matthew 10:32-33
The Word was God literally means the Word was God. It doesn't say the Word wasn't God. It doesn't say the Word was a different God. It doesn't say the Word was God the father. It doesn't say was kind of a God, but not really. People seem to really enjoy twisting this and trying hard to make it mean something else, but it doesn't mean something else. The Word was God still means the "Word was God." It cannot be denied what it so clearly says.
I heard someone who seemed motivated to not want Jesus to be his Lord or God go on to say that the Word didn't mean Jesus and wanted it to mean the Bible. But that person forgot that the Bible already says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14. It again calls Jesus the Word in Revelation 19:13.
So, all the other speculation doesn't really matter. People's devised human arguments in order to rationalize or distort to fit what one wants to believe is all irrelevant. The fact is John 1:1 says Jesus is God and the real question is does someone believe in the Bible as God's word or not? I choose to believe it. I hope others do too. Satan loves deceiving and tricking people into rationalizing away and cherry picking certain things over others.
1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18, (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8. John 20:28.
There are spiritual forces at work trying to deceive and twist and misinterpret. Beware of false teachers. The Bible already says what it means. Do we choose to believe and trust?
Thanks for defending this doctrine. It seems that many on here do not believe Jesus is both God and man in one person.
But we who do know must continue to present what the Word supports about our Savior.
Thank you for doing so.
Oops sent without finishing....
Witness of the bible and of the church from apostolic times onward.
The idea that Jesus is not God has been refuted repeatedly over the centuries and determined to be heresy again and again.
But I these days, this view flourishes because the church is so fractured that the authorities voice of orthodoxy has lost its effect as we are in a time where each person and sect chooses their own version of doctrines they accept as "truth" and minds have been blinded to the Truth of Scriptures, as you so clearly pointed out.
Those who deny that Jesus is God are deceived by "false teachers" the same as those who deny that He came in the flesh 1John 4:1-4 and have the spirit of the Antichrist.
1John 5:9-12 goes on to tell us that the witness of God is greater than the witness of men. Those who do not believe the witness of God
(In 1John 7-8) are calling God a liar.
I feel sad for those who have been deceived by refusing to believe that Jesus is God and that The Godhead consists of three Persons that are unified as One God. We can pray for them and give testimony to the truth as you have done .
Than you.
Yes, I think 2 Timothy 4:3 may explain some of this. It seems to be a recent organized attack campaign on Jesus and His followers to distort and deceive and there's an odd allegiance and motivation by those pushing it get others to believe the same. It's truth vs lie and we know who is behind it. John 8:44.
In researching, o have found that the past few hundred years has produced a large number of sects within sects, do yo speak as new denominations splinter further and further into independent churches. I believe that many of these continue to wander further and further from the tenets of the church established b the apostles and preserve through the centuries. The doctrines of Jesus have suffered greatly as many espouse that he was just human, not God, though perfect. Or that he was human but became A God by being perfect in this life. Or that h came into being at his conception instead of being eternally existent with the Father. Or that he shed his humanity when he ascended to heaven, returning upbringing only the Son of God, a Spirit only, and no longer the Sin of Man, too.
All of these beliefs have been repeatedly refuted by the church from the first centuries on and determined to be heresy. But unfortunately, many people in this age do
Not have a historical foundation to set their beliefs upon. They just believe what their pastor, friends, church, teach or what they themselves have deduced from their reading if Scripture. That is a danger of having self be the sole determiner of scriptural interpretation.
I think many people are deceived by these false teachings , but they are not purposely being so. They have unfortunately listened to errant preachers and teachers. Yet, even so, their minds are often closed to considering any correction from others outside their sphere of influence even when shown by Scripture as you and others have done here.
So, when I read posts that espouse errant views, I do
Pray for these people along with speaking and supporting othodox views that have stood the test of Scriptute and time.
Thank you for your defense of this teaching in the Bible. Those who believe that Jesus is God along with the Father and with the Spirit have the witness of the B
I guess I did not proofread that post very well
Sorry the phone thinks that it can "correct" what I type but often doesn't do so correctly and on top of that my letter buttons are very small, so I make too many mistakes. Grrrr,
We could (maybe foolishly) ask the question, 'why doesn't God then 're-constitute' Jesus to shed His glorified flesh & return Him back to being the Word within the Godhead?' Jesus is still God's Word ( Revelation 19:11-16), but now in flesh, & will probably evermore be what the Father planned: His eternal Witness of God sacrificing Himself, but now reigning as "King of kings and Lord of lords" ( Revelation 19:16): as Israel's promised Supreme Messiah-King, the Root & Offspring of David ( Revelation 22:16), & also of those Gentiles who have been saved because of faith in the Messiah of God. Therefore, in these final chapters of Revelation, we see both God, His Son (Word made flesh), & the Holy Spirit ( Revelation 4:5, 'the seven-fold Spirit of God' and Revelation 22:17) - neither ceasing to be within the Godhead, yet remaining both a physical & spiritual Presence of God as God has determined of Himself.
God is not the God of confusion; I pray that you are led by the Spirit of truth and are delivered from the confusion that man is so good at. I will only address the one part, about the temple in the New City. If you read Revelation 21:22-23 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
The Holy Spirit is not spoken of. My understanding that many may disagree, God and Jesus will be among us and there will be no need to communicate through the spirit because we will be faced to face.
Revelation 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. Revelation 22:3-4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.
You must with prayer come to your own understanding of the trinity doctrine and if scripture truly supports it, be led by the Spirit of truth.
God bless,
RLW
Yes, it is, and no light shines brighter than the truth.
God bless,
RLW
independent of each other, which what I read doesn't contradict scripture! My understanding of the trinity.
Matthew 20:23 "And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father."
Mark 10:40 "But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared."
Mark 16:19 "So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."
Luke 12:32 "Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."
Luke 22:24-30 "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;" "That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
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