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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 178915

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Theopilus Lowe on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    Why is Sunday considered the sabbath today when according the genesis it would have been Saturday?
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    there is no more sabbath that was an old testament ordnance to an observer we are not under any obligation for such a rule.

    [ Col 2:16 KJV] 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:

    no work was to be done on that sabbath to picture Christ, no work is to be done to get into heaven we just rest and trust in Christ Jesus
  • Adam - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    Sabbath has always been Saturday. It has never changed.

    Some confuse that with when the body of Christ assembles. The first century church met on the first day of the week Acts 20:7 so some churches modeled after that. But it does not say its a command or anything. We are to follow Christ every day.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Theopilus Lowe On Genesis 2 This was changed in the time of constantine in March 7th 321 in a decree he

    made law.
  • M. A. - In Reply - 3 years ago
    How can that be? There must of been maybe thousands of Jewish manuscripts and he would've had to changed all of them. Which could've been circulating around at the time with many places. How would no one notice? Could you tell me how this is physically possible?
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    M.A. He was ruler at that time and had a meeting with all leaders of the known church to consolidate beliefs

    because supposedly he had a vision from God on what to do. Thar's what I've read historically and there were

    so many divisions of beliefs that He wanted them to be one. Look it up historically its eye opening to say the

    least.
  • Gigi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Sorry for the typos

    I meant to say that the apostles went to the synogogue on Saturdays in an effort to reach the Jews with the gospel.

    So (haha) dismiss the sushi and voted reference in my post and insert the above sentence . Funny how the phone tries to think for us.
  • Gigi - In Reply - 3 years ago
    By the time of Constantine, Sunday worship for Christians had already been the normal practice in the church since apostolic times. The apostles still attends sushi fur services in the Sabbath, as they were Jews and ends voted to reach their Jewish brethren with he gospel. But Christian worship services were held on Sunday's and in some places , daily. Therefore, the apostles would have attended synagogue on Saturday and Christian worship services at least on Sundays

    Gentile believers would have attended worship services on Sunday's for the mat part.

    Constantine and the church council did not change anything that was not already being practiced in the church at the time.

    Also, Constantine's "vision" was associated with hm conquering in the name of Christ. It had nothing to do with with this meeting with church leaders.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Gigi This is by no means a debate on my part I have read in great detail on that period of constantine's

    rulership and his main goal was to unite the kingdom to one belief system and in that time frame a number of

    pagan practices were combined with church doctrine at that time. Still in that time in history not all church leaders

    wanted what was voted on as doctrinal policy. There's more to the background but I'm moving on to more profitable

    areas. Onward to the bema. A lot of Roman Catholic roots were just beginning.
  • Gigi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Rick

    It

    Is true that Constantine did overlay Christian celebrations on top of pagan festivals and there was a mixing of practices.

    I agree that this was not a good thing to do. The reasons my was in hopes that pagans would have an easier time converting if the celebrations had some similarities with what they were used to.

    Then as today,

    The cause of Christ suffers when we think we can win people through appealing to

    Their flesh ( think "seeker-friendly watered down preaching and "entertainment" style I'd worship services.)

    That said, much of what the church council of Nicea affirmed was actually good, but some of the decisions contributed to the Romamizing of the Christian faith.

    I just suggest that people can look into the churches history with an open mind without preconceived bias positive or negative and discover what was done right and what was done wrong. It is the same today, the present situation is wrought with problems and errors, but there is still much good that is happening within Christendom and we should wish to support and speak well of Christ's church in all ages, but also Point out how the church has not upheld the truth or compromised or erred.

    And there is err in all arenas of Christendom, not just in the Roman Catholic Denomination.

    I could pick apart many denominations also nf with the RCC but I do not wish to

    Go

    There on a forum like this.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    Saturday has always been the Jewish Sabbath. Sunday, the first day of the week, is sometimes called, the "Lord's Day" ( Revelation 1:10), & should not be referred to as Sabbath.



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