Bible Discussion Thread

Confusion here. When Christ comes into the sky to be seen by all but not actually returning to earth, the dead in Christ will rise first, then the living will be called up to meet the lord in the air. I would then assume that those that never got called up who are alive on the earth and those that are dead in their graves will then have to live through the 7 year great tribulation? Second Question. The Bible tells us that the soul that sinneth shall surely die. We are all sinners therefore when a person passes away if their soul goes to heaven or hell then why does Christ need to come back to the earth in the sky to take someone with him when they have already been taken from the grave when they died? The Bible tells us that the dead are dead and conscience of nothing. I thought the soul and the body where one as God breathed the life through his nostril and created a living soul, a man. I hope this makes sense and you can find me scriptures or explain just how this works. I have 2 different versions here of what happens after a person dies. If their soul immediately went to heaven then would that not make them immortal? Thank you.

Rick Haggett Man in Garden of eden lost spiritual connection Genesis 1:27 created in Gods own image [ John 2:24

God is Spirit], God in Genesis 2:7 formed man of the dust of the formed man dust of ground body then God breathed

into man breath of life and man became a living soul[breath life chai nephash] so man was body soul and spirit in the

beginning. When the downfall occurred man lost His spiritual connection with God and only had Body and soul no

spiritual connection. A person born again of Gods Spirit gets exactly that Gods gift of spiritual connection which was

lost in Genesis, that's why Ephesians 2:5 says when we were dead in trespasses and sins born that way all people after

Adam and Eve. The exception of course Jesus Christ. The Gift of God holy spirit is the quickening spirit it is eternal life.

When a christian dies I.E.falls asleep the spirit goes back to god who gave it the body dust of the ground and the soul

when we take out last breath that is the end of soul or breath life. When Christ returns for the church His body those

believed will be raised up and given a body like His glorious body, in the book of revelation the just and unjust will be

raised to face judgement according to the deeds or works. This is my understanding scripturally, the challenge that

presents itself here is biblically some teach spirit and soul are the same identical item but I don't see that scripturally.

The word spirit can be translated life breath wind so this must be understood in context of usage.