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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 179940

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  • Paul - 2 years ago
    Who/what are the nicolaitans spoken of in revelation?
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Followers of Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: The perverse mixing of idol worship, sacrificing to idols of food and perverse sex acts combined after He was one of the 7 who were of Stephen appointed to wait tables to serve the widows in the church he is mentioned in Acts 6:5 Paul wrote that some who were of us went out from among us.

    Smith's Bible Dictionary

    Nicolaitans:

    (followers of Nicolas) a sect mentioned in Revelation 2:6; 2:15 whose deeds were strongly condemned. They may have been identical with those who held the doctrine of Balaam. They seem to have held that it was lawful to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication, in opposition to the decree of the Church rendered in Acts 15:20; 15:29. The teachers of the Church branded them with a name which expressed their true character. The men who did and taught such things were followers of Balaam ( 2 Peter 2:15; Jude 1:11). They, like the false prophet of Pethor, united brave words with evil deeds. In a time of persecution, when the eating or not eating of things sacrificed to idols was more than ever a crucial test of faithfulness, they persuaded men more than ever that was a thing indifferent ( Revelation 2:13-14). This was bad enough, but there was a yet worse evil. Mingling themselves in the orgies of idolatrous feasts, they brought the impurities of those feasts into the meetings of the Christian Church. And all this was done, it must be remembered not simply as an indulgence of appetite: but as a part of a system, supported by a "doctrine," accompanied by the boast of a prophetic illumination ( 2 Peter 2:1). It confirms the view which has been taken of their character to find that stress is laid in the first instance on the "deeds" of the Nicolaitans. To hate those deeds is a sign of life in a Church that otherwise is weak and faithless ( Revelation 2:6). To tolerate them is well nigh to forfeit the glory of having been faithful under persecution ( Revelation 2:14-15).
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Rev 2:6 KJV - But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

    Rev 2:15 KJV - So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.

    a people that taught bad doctrine and did wicked things to the point that they got a mention in the book of revolution.

    Nothing is in the bible for no reason this shows us we can hate people too that teach false doctrine and do wicked things. contrary to the popular belief
  • Gigi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Good Morning Paul,

    I did research last night on this. Although many sites broke down the name Nicolatians as an explanation of their teaching as ecclesiastical heirarchy, but Scripture does not indicate that their teachings are related to the meaning of their name.

    I believe that they are named Nicolatians because they followed a person named Nicolas. Scripture does describe them as following the ways of Balaam. In the OT Balaam was a prophet who was tasked to curse Israel, but God prevented him from speaking curses. Instead, when Balaam spoke to curse Israel, God made him speak blessings instead.

    So, then Balaam resorted to bringing in foreign, idolatrous women from Moab to seduce the the Israelite men into fornication and idolatry.

    So, some early church writings speak of the Nicolatians as church members who mixed pagan practices with Christianity, especially participating in pagan temple feasts that included temple prostitution and consuming foods offered to idols in the feast. Other writers spoke of them as teaching that since the body is not spiritual, it doesn't matter what we do in the flesh because it is the spiritual self that matters. Therefore, they indulged in sin readily without shame while still keeping fellowship at the Christain worship services.

    This behavior and thinking is called antinomians am, which teaches, since we are under grace, and all of our sins are forgiven, we can sin with abandonment because of our Christsin liberty.

    Hope this helps.

    By the way, my last name is Nichols and I have read its meaning as "People of Victory".

    But it seems that some sites wanted to connect the meaning of the name with priests having authority over laity. This view shows an ecclesiastical bias as at the time of John's writing in Revelations there were no priests/laity not heirarchy in the church. That came several centuries later. Churches had appointed elders, overseers, bishops, evangelists at this time but no central church government.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Paul.

    I've researched it in the past and heard it taught that the word Nicolaitans means to rule the people.

    The Greek words "Nicolaus" or "nikos" and "laos" are the words for Nicolaitanes. "Nikos" is priest or priesthood, and "laos" is the laody, the common people. So it is the establishing of a spiritual hierarchy, where a man would come between you and God. And would say, "No, you can't go directly to God. You come to me and I will go to God for you."

    Hopefully someone can expand on it.

    God bless.
  • Gigi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Paul

    The Nicolatians were false teachers in the churches during Psul's time. I am not sure if what these false teachings were. I will google it and find out. You could google as well. I will get back to

    You. Or, maybe someone out there knows and can post.
  • Mishael - In Reply - 2 years ago
    RickRenner dot org/Nicolaitians

    take out the spaces and use an actual ""

    He has a really good teaching on this.



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