Bible Discussion Thread

I would like to comment on versus 3 and down, in this chapter the Lord Jesus Christ speaks of many conditional promises, while this goes unnoticed by many Christians, we should take this thought seriously as it will ultimately bring greater blessings into our life, which we do not posses right now. If we want to enter the millennial kingdom of heaven, we first must learn we can only do so by meeting the conditions to enter that kingdom, I have thought personally that the twelve gates into the city New Jerusalem are twelve different conditional promises being met. Here the Lord Jesus speaks of one way into the kingdom of heaven in verse 3, by becoming poor in spirit. This word carries with it the understanding of being humble and also one that keeps commandments, this therefore is the condition that a Christian must have in their lives in order to enter the millennial kingdom and the final kingdom after the millennium. Another way to enter the millennial kingdom of heaven, is to be persecuted for righteousness sake, as in verse 10, this generally happens when Christians are out witnessing, preaching against sin, and lifting up righteousness, yet this too is another guarantee of entering the millennial kingdom of God. As we continue to study this chapter we soon discover there are conditions attached to the blessings that Christ speaks about, therefore, if we try to obtain the blessing without meeting the condition, we fail, and the blessing remains in the bible instead of coming into our lives. But if I would meet the condition, than the blessing can come out of the bible into my life, now or in the future as well. The bible is filled with hundreds of conditional promises, we Christians ew need to become awake on this subject, for the purpose of being far more blessed than we are today. Knowing, there is no other way to obtain these blessings, we must strive to pursue them diligently, that we might obtain.

Hiya Dr. Lyle Lee....But there is only 1 way we can Plz God and thats by Faith....and he is the Author and the Finisher of our Faith....From Gen to Rev. there is only 1 way to plz God...By Faith...And Don't Worry about the KiNGDOM, As Jesus says the KiNGDOM is gonna be with in you.....Not amonst you But with in you....As the hope of glory is Christ in you....From that Good seed the New Covenant the words of the Book in the Fathers right hand.....He dwelest with you but he shall be with in you by Faith as Faith is a spritual pregnancy....Thus there is a new birth in this New Covenant a lil Child. Which is the H.G. the Child of Promise....Plz don't forget she brought forth a man Child that is gonna lead us into AL TRUTH and Rule all Nations.

Hi Alex N. In your response to conditional promises, you wrote about the kingdom of God, as though all Christians already have this in them, I should clarify this statement therefore to you, the first dispensation of the kingdom of heaven is inwardly, it lasts for 2,000 years, from the time the Lord Jesus died until he returns, according to the Lord Jesus in Luke 17:20-21 all Christians have the kingdom of God in their heart, this is also taught in John 3:5, all Christians enter the kingdom of God when they are born again, The Apostle Paul affirms this truth in Colossians 1:13, however, this is not what I was speaking about in conditional promises, I spoke about the millennial kingdom of God, which has not happened yet, no Christian has entered this yet, all scriptures place conditions upon entering that kingdom of God. I will say this, we made it into the first dispensation of the kingdom by faith without works, but to make it into the millennial kingdom, it is by faith with works. Please read Matthew 7:21 only if a Christian does the will of God can he make it in, this is a condition attached to making it in the kingdom. Read Matthew 25:14-30 unless you used your talents you cannot make it into the joy of the Lord, being the millennial kingdom, again a conditional promise to get it, or read Acts 14:22 as we must suffer much tribulation in order to make it into the kingdom, another conditional attached to making it into the millennial kingdom of heaven. Again read the warnings of why Christians will not make it into that millennial kingdom in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 & Galatians 5:19-21 & Ephesians 5:3-5 as a result of living a godless lifestyle, you lose your inheritance of entering into the millennial kingdom of God, in order to rule and reign for a thousand years. As concerning your topic of the man child teaching us all things, that prophecy is for the coming of Elijah in Malachi 4:5-6 it is not the ministry of the man child. I hope this explains conditional promises.

Revelations 11:4 speaks of two witnesses the 2 olive trees and 2 candlesticks. Zechariah 4:1-14 lets you know a olive tree is Gods people Romans 11:13:24 tells you that the original olive tree is Israel the wild olive tree is the gentiles. They both have to be graphed into the root. A candlestick is a church look at Revelations 1:20. These two groups will receive a power like never before to preach the truth to the whole world during the tribulation. They will have a warrior type power like Moses or Elijah. They will be the enemy of this world but for the first 3.5 years nobody will be able to stop them. Then they will be killed and the world will be happy but then they live again in front of people. God proves once again that he is the only God. Not everybody that says I believe will enter the kingdom of heaven. Some of these people God will say part from me I never knew you. If you read revelations chapters 2 and 3 you will see that there were and are two types of churches that God approves, the other 5 he does not.

Bro. Dr. Lyle Lee....No Plz. don't misunderstand me the Kingdom does not come till the book is opened which is the new covenant thats y they Sang a new Song when the book was opened.... Rev 12 : 5 KJV....The words of that book are the New Covenant which is gonna result in a Heavenly Birth....A pregnancy Thats y the woman is in travail and birth pains.....Plz listen to Rev 12 : 10.....Now is come Salvation and the KINGDOM OF OUR GOD AND AND THE POWER OF HIS CHRIST.....See that, the Kingdom does not come till the Child is born in US via the words of that book.....At Pentacost they asked Jesus will you at this time restore the Kingdon to ISRAEL ....He replied it is not for you to know the times and seasons that the Father has put in his own power...But you will receive power after the H.G. is come upon you,...But Micah 5 : 3 Tells us the KiNGDOM will not come till the Woman gives birth which is exactly what happens in Rev 12 v 10....Now is come salvation the manchild which is the H.G.....That Child of PROMISE....The multiplcation of CHRIST IN HUMANITY.....As the woman is humanity the field were that good seed has been sown.....the World.....There is only 1 bridegroom thus there can only be one KiNGDOM.....John says he saw the Holy city as a bride ( the new Jerusalem ) adorned for her husband....Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child impling a heavenrly Birth via his seed the words of the Book That he wrote with his own blood.....Micah tells us the KiNGDOM of God will not come till the WOMAN is in travail for the manchild which is the KiNGDOM....K

Hi Alex N; glad to hear from you again, this subject is one of great depth concerning the kingdom, perhaps I understand this doctrine differently than you do as the first dispensation and manifestation of the kingdom has happened already. When we were born again we enter the kingdom John 3:5 The Apostle Paul taught we were translated from darkness into the kingdom of Christ, which I believe refers unto our spirit alone in Colossians 1:13 Again we already received the kingdom in Hebrews 12:28 These truths cannot be denied, Yet we look forward to the millennial kingdom of God as in Revelation 20:4 knowing this kingdom of Christ will come as you mentioned in Revelation 12:10 which indicates the middle of the seven year tribulation. Now we differ as I believe the man child are the sons of God, Christians who are mature, being led by the Holy Ghost, as in Romans 8:14 I cannot accept the man child to be the Holy Ghost, for the man child is raptured in Rev. 12:5-6 in the middle of the tribulation, yet the bible affirms constantly the Holy Ghost is here on earth working in the 144,000 the two witnesses, and all children of God during the tribulation, and such like. I do not interpret the woman as humanity, like you do, as the woman to me is the church of Jesus Christ as in Rev. 12:17 she has the testimony of Christ and keeps commandments, Israel does not have these things, and the world does not have these things either, only the church can have these things. Remember the woman is clothed with the sun, a metaphor for the gospel, the moon under her feet, meaning to have power over Satan and all fallen angels, which only the church has in the name of Jesus Christ. You are right to call the city New Jerusalem the kingdom of heaven, as this kingdom of God comes after the millennial kingdom of Christ, yet it is the final manifestation of the kingdom of heaven. I will ask therefore, have you taken into account, not all Christians will make it into the kingdom. Mat.7:21

Hiya Dr. Lyle Lee....The last 2000 yrs have been ( 2 days ) the great Abomination of Desolation that Jesus warns us about when NO MAN CAN WORK.....We have had no Prince of peace,... Nothin but Wars and senceless killings...I am the light of the world But the Nite comes when NO MAN can work....The last 2000 yrs have been nothin but darkness...I am the light of the world but the nite comes when no man can Work...Do you not realise that 6.5 Million Jews died in this WW 2....Simply b/c we are in that time of darkess Jesus warns us about....As Isaiah said darkness will cover the earth and gross darkness the PPL ...We see this every day....Even the big mega Church are all desolate.....As Jesus said the day of the LORD WILL COME TILL THERE 1ST COME A GREAT FALLING AWAY AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED.....Dr Lee remember there was no good WINE till the 3 rd day.....They ran outta of wine at the 1 st day wedding...Pentacost......And the last 2 days 2000 yrs have been a time of desolation WHEN no man CAN WORK.....But we hope for the best WINE to day.

In this Millenium.....The ppl of Israel did not become a nation Again till 1948...May 14 th.....But there were 2000 yrs of desolation.....Remember Hosea said after 2 days will he raise us up and on the 3 rd will he revive us.....But there has to be a 2000 yr period of 2 days in the sight of God..... Hosea 6 : 2 .....If ya read Matthew 13 we see that the parable of the Sower and his precious seed is the only way the Kingdom can ONLY come is by sowing that good seed is mans hearts....Thats ye always refers to himself as the SON OF MAN....Simply b/c mankind is gona have a Baby,....Which is the H.G that Child of PROMISE.....Thats y he is saying behold i send the Promise of my Father upon you which was baptism of the H.G. Which is the multiplication of Christ Jesus in US that hear his words ( his seeds ) ....But the bible is not telling us there are 2 kingdoms......its just impling an intermission of 2 days 2k yrs...2 days....GBU DR

Hi Alex N; So our theology does not agree, OK, but at least we agree in the kingdom, I see it as having three names; of heaven, of God, of Christ. Three manifestations 1. inwardly 2. outwardly as governments 3. New Jerusalem Finally three dispensations, #1 from the time Christ died until he the midnight hour #2 From the midnight hour, until the end of the millennium. #3 From the end of the millennium, into eternity. Yet you see the one kingdom as only coming at his second coming, also you mention Israel, as though they had something to do with the kingdom of God, but this is not so, the kingdom was taken from them in parables and given to a nation that would bring forth the fruits thereof. I struggle with your thought that we as Christians must bring forth the Holy Ghost as the man child, as I have informed you he is not the man child, the overcomer as a Christian is the man child, just compare Rev. 12:5-6 to Rev. 2:26-27 There you discover the one who rules the nations with the rod of iron are Christians who overcame, as I said earlier they are called the sons of God, being male in gender and referred unto as the man child. Once again; you refer unto the baptism of the Holy Ghost, which is a conditional promise according to John 7:37-39 for anyone who thirsts, they must go to Christ and drink, three conditions are laid upon Christians seeking this baptism, first the thirst, second coming to Christ and third drinking, although not necessarily in that order. Yet you are right about the bible stating there is only one kingdom, but this has three names, three manifestations and three dispensations, concerning that one kingdom. Please remember, the millennial kingdom and the New Jerusalem kingdom are offered unto all Christians, but not all Christians will inherit them, as you must have faith with works, meeting the conditions specified by the Lord Jesus and the apostles, to be able to enter the second and third dispensation of the kingdom.

Dr. Lyle Lee Gbu i luv ya...But i cannot get back to you tonight is getting down to a hard freeze tonight....Gotta get all my plumbing in order.......(((((...Dr. Lyle LEE... ))))))....Tomorrow