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To trust God and remember fear is of the devil and there is no fear in love, and we reap what we sow and that applies to unbelief as well. If you do get it, James 5:13Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
I would just like to offer you a short simple answer to your question. What is the Lord telling you to do? What is He putting on your heart? That would be your answer!
To add to discussion. In a Country where people are subject to a King & Governors in Monarchy I can see where, 1 Peter 2:13,14,may apply a little more directly. but please read, 1 Peter 2:12-25, Please note: 1 Peter 2:19, even here "in good conscience toward GOD endure grief, suffering wrongfully" interesting words Con= opposing, Science...? GOD is GREAT!
There are many differences in Todays Governments.
We here in The USA are not "subjects" in our Declaration of Independence & Constitutional documents Federal & ALL States; we clearly do away with that. If you're in USA we Are The People, One Nation Under GOD. The Governing authority is ours, & it is our duty to act against Tyranny.
Side not: Recently I've received emails stating The US Supreme Court has blocked the "mandate" against a (governing agency to force companies to require vax) the Virginia Governor sworn in Sat. Jan.15, 2022. 1st Executive Orders, eliminate those regulatory wrongs even within schools. These past difficult tyrannical years should teach us to be wise for the future.
If we receive anything to save ourselves be careful = Luke 9:24, Mark 8:35, Matthew 16:25, Luke 17:33,
Hello, I'm happy to share my opinion of this topic. There's nothing in the Bible directly about people needing to take an experimental substance a pharma company pushes for their commercial profit. It's not the government's role to control your body as that is a human rights violation. Even if the substance they were pushing had never harmed or killed anyone and even if it actually helped people that would still be a violation of rights. When it says in the Bible to give to caesar what is caesar's that doesn't mean to cower to tyranny and evil. For example, does that mean one could use the Bible to justify sending Jews to Auschwitz gas chambers if they were in the German army? No, it doesn't. We are supposed to follow God's moral law, before we follow man's law, and if the two conflict, then we follow God, not man. For instance, even if your government commanded you to kill people in world war 2 doesn't make it morally right, since God said do not kill.
And God gave us our bodies and we are to take care of God's belongings as we are not our own. That means to keep healthy through diet, exercise, and not to harm ourselves through experimental drugs. Given that more there's already more than 1 million documented cases of injuries and thousands of deaths just in the US as a result of the covid so-called vaccine that means its dangerous and I think its morally wrong to take it. I don't fault those who have taken it with the assumption that it was somehow helping them, but sadly it has all been a sham. This has been one of the largest human rights violations in world history with possibly millions dead unnecessarily because of greed. Pray that the truth will be finally revealed.
Hello Letizia. There's nothing in the Bible about getting a vaccination against Covid, nor a compulsion to take any vaccinations. However, there is a Scriptures that speaks of obedience to governments: 1 Peter 2:13,14, "Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well."
So, as believers, we are required to not only obey God, but also to obey the administration of government as they bring in laws & give direction for many areas of personal life & business in society. We may not like or agree with those personalities within government or even their laws, but IF a law is given for our good, then we should obey. As yet, this vaccine has not been enforced upon us (though in some jobs, it has become necessary, just as the need to wear specific head or body protection). Still, it must remain the choice of each one whether to take the vaccine or not. If for conscience sake or before the Lord, one chooses not to take the vaccine, that might be acceptable to God but maybe unacceptable to the government, & therefore some form of restriction might be imposed.
Then, to answer your question, if a person believes that the vaccine is wrong or detrimental to one's health, then refrain from taking it & accept the consequences. I don't think that our choice in this particular matter has to meet God's Approval - there are many decisions in life that God leaves up to us that don't violate His commands - I feel this is one of them.
I tend to agree. With so many people that are adamant about the vaccine being harmful only to get the virus then to urge others to get vaccinated before it is too late. I know it is rushed more than our childhood vaccination trials. I believe this is out of necessity.
That's true Brenda. In some cases, people who were convinced about the 'harmful' effects of the vaccine & have later turned about face on the matter, are also joined by those in the opposite camp, pushing for the vaccine, but later having fallen ill & may have even passed on. We can see both sides of this which has divided so many.
Therefore, each one has to be convinced, having examined it as much as possible, & do according to the dictates of their consciences. The other problem that arises is, should those who've not been vaccinated then protest against employer or govt. rulings that put restrictions or penalties upon them? Sure there'll be many protestations, as there are even now, but the bottom line is, if a law is in place, we either obey or disobey it, & if we're true to our convictions, then the ramifications of our decision, whether of good or ill, must be accepted.
14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
I would just like to offer you a short simple answer to your question. What is the Lord telling you to do? What is He putting on your heart? That would be your answer!
There are many differences in Todays Governments.
We here in The USA are not "subjects" in our Declaration of Independence & Constitutional documents Federal & ALL States; we clearly do away with that. If you're in USA we Are The People, One Nation Under GOD. The Governing authority is ours, & it is our duty to act against Tyranny.
Side not: Recently I've received emails stating The US Supreme Court has blocked the "mandate" against a (governing agency to force companies to require vax) the Virginia Governor sworn in Sat. Jan.15, 2022. 1st Executive Orders, eliminate those regulatory wrongs even within schools. These past difficult tyrannical years should teach us to be wise for the future.
If we receive anything to save ourselves be careful = Luke 9:24, Mark 8:35, Matthew 16:25, Luke 17:33,
Hopefully this is helpful in your discussion.
And God gave us our bodies and we are to take care of God's belongings as we are not our own. That means to keep healthy through diet, exercise, and not to harm ourselves through experimental drugs. Given that more there's already more than 1 million documented cases of injuries and thousands of deaths just in the US as a result of the covid so-called vaccine that means its dangerous and I think its morally wrong to take it. I don't fault those who have taken it with the assumption that it was somehow helping them, but sadly it has all been a sham. This has been one of the largest human rights violations in world history with possibly millions dead unnecessarily because of greed. Pray that the truth will be finally revealed.
So, as believers, we are required to not only obey God, but also to obey the administration of government as they bring in laws & give direction for many areas of personal life & business in society. We may not like or agree with those personalities within government or even their laws, but IF a law is given for our good, then we should obey. As yet, this vaccine has not been enforced upon us (though in some jobs, it has become necessary, just as the need to wear specific head or body protection). Still, it must remain the choice of each one whether to take the vaccine or not. If for conscience sake or before the Lord, one chooses not to take the vaccine, that might be acceptable to God but maybe unacceptable to the government, & therefore some form of restriction might be imposed.
Then, to answer your question, if a person believes that the vaccine is wrong or detrimental to one's health, then refrain from taking it & accept the consequences. I don't think that our choice in this particular matter has to meet God's Approval - there are many decisions in life that God leaves up to us that don't violate His commands - I feel this is one of them.
Therefore, each one has to be convinced, having examined it as much as possible, & do according to the dictates of their consciences. The other problem that arises is, should those who've not been vaccinated then protest against employer or govt. rulings that put restrictions or penalties upon them? Sure there'll be many protestations, as there are even now, but the bottom line is, if a law is in place, we either obey or disobey it, & if we're true to our convictions, then the ramifications of our decision, whether of good or ill, must be accepted.
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