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I re-read your questions. A parent with a child that says they are gay; all you can do is love them fully, whatever state they are in.
That's what I would do. Love covers a multitude of sins. Love is a good place to start. It doesn't mean you have to be converted to someone else's choices. We have to believe what the Bible says. Instead, you are the Prodigal sons father. Just keep looking for his return.
You're going have to give yourself to something way bigger than you ever imagined. You take your place beside Jesus: who is seated at the right hand of God the Father. Jesus ever lives to make Intercession for the Saints. As I have done_ you sit and pray for your child; for all parents of all Christian/backslid kids.
Don't give voice to any negative comments. That's exactly what Satan wants. He's the Accuser, Betrayer, Murderer of love. Only your prayers are stronger than Satans Plans. Pray Psalm 51 over your son plus passages you find, like diamonds.
I waited 15 years for my son to stop blaming God for "hating gays". I never said that. It's something they imagine. A LIE Satan told them. That's why I said, to be the Prodigals dad. He will come to his senses in time; as my son did. He's not gay. He just appointed himself to defend gay people.
Maybe it's dumb, but I took roast dinners to his house to share with him and his wife. When I was making the meal_I asked the Lord to fill it with blessing, goodness and the love of family. Each mouthful of food was filled with hope and sure expectation. I even rejoiced in washing the dishes. :)
I would see the prodigal on the road, to return to his roots. Our God. My son taught me to be supportive and not condemn. Let go and Let God figure it out. Let love have it's perfection in Christ.
I always let gays know they are ACCEPTED in the BELOVED. I truly believe in the Love of God to find The Way, the Truth, the Life. Amen.
When my sons turned from faith and met hardships as teens, I crried, grieved, and prayed. At one point I spoke to God and said, Lord God, I know that You love my sons more than I ever could and that You are working in their lives 24/7 and I cannot, so I leave them into Your hands.
I have continued to pray for them (it's been 20 years) and believe that God will answer my prayers and bring them back to faith in Him. Like You, have contended in the Spirit to restore family time and harmony. We are more connected now than 20 years ago. I just love them, helming them when they have a need, being flexible to their schedules do we can have dinners together a few times a month(with three adult sons it is hard to find days where all three can come over).
We go shooting together, as we are all learning to shoot with accuracy. My oldest is the best skilled and most knowledgeable about gun use.
All my sons like to cook with me. We hope to work on canning together this summer.
We have always love camping, so we try to get in at least
One trip each summer.
I know that all these things are really important. They don''t ask a lot of spiritual questions, but I let them know I pray for them and talk about world events and relate them to The Bible without "preaching" (which they aren't open to) But I know that the time will come when they ask me more about my faith or their dad, and I pray for God to send believing wives to them soon along with believing friends.
But as for a parent of a child who says they are gay. It is important to kindly take a stance against the sin and offering hope in Christ. And if course letting the child know you are praying for them (and do it!). They may not be thrilled that you pray for them, but I believe deep down, they are miserable and are thankful someone is praying to God for them as they may not feel like they can pray to Him as a gay person.Thanks for your good counsel. It is heartbreaking to have one's child apostasize.
When I was baptized, my son was 6. He insisted being baptized with me. I asked the Pastor to quiz him on his request. Pastor gave the go ahead. I was blessed! So happy.
In his 20's three friends died of different reasons. My nephew, like a son to me; died in a firey 18 wheeler crash. I know my son felt that God had betrayed him somehow. All I could do was pray for both of us.
He wouldn't even listen to me if I said anything about God_ Until recently. His son is in a Christian school; my daughter in law is a Christian. My grandson received salvation at his school. He was so happy! I keep praying for them. My son doesn't have to be anyone except himself. Every so often I "think out loud", that I will be so happy to go fishing with my Dad, grand-dad, and Travis.
We had many happy lake memories.
Have a listen to my friend, Charles Capps, on YouTube. He had great insight into how to get more done, through prayer. Sometimes it feels like they are restrained by the devil. Memories of losses are powerful. I know it's "not welcome", but I drop occasional "praise the Lord", when he gives me some good news. :). Or I'll say how my grandson is like his humble and kind grandfather.
I guess I'm saying, don't cower behind their objections. I just take it to the closet. The Lord is faithful to listen. I know God sees everyone on each day of their lives, Alpha and Omega. I just thank him in advance for the day my son says in his heart_how grateful he is for his many blessings! And that he wants to forgive God, so he can be forgiven. That's all God requires.
We have to plow that fallow ground of their hearts. Break up the clods with OUR tears; toss out rocks of disappointments. Lay down our pride and pick up humility_and stay behind the plow. I ask God to bless them no matter what and bring me a good report some day. He wants to see Travis as much as Trav wants to see him. Travis was humble and sweet.
God will accomplish in my dons' lives what He wills, and His will is for our good. At times it it hard to wait, but waiting prayerfully with faith is something many of us must learn to do as part of our own growth in Christ.
God is long suffering so we should also be.
For me, aside from their own spiritual welfare, I tend to grieve over the time lost as a family that we all could be of one mind in Christ instead of divided as we now are. But,
I do look forward to the time when we will be a Christ serving family again and have our conversations filled with the truth of Christ and His word. Until then, I look for and ask God for those opportunities to share the good that God does in my life with my sons.
We can pray for each other's kids. My sons are Brian, Rob, and Kevin. Is your son's name Travis?
Societies in the Last Days Before the Return of Jesus - In Reply - 2 years ago
1 Timothy 6
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
This is what every country is experiencing. The Bible says that it will 'wax worse and worse.' Your faith needs to be strong in what the New Testament teaches on these Last Days before Jesus's Return.
The unsaved will be in these comment rooms preaching their heresies. They are reprobate. Don't listen to their rants.
1 Timothy 1:9-10
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for THEM that defile themselves with MANKIND, for menstealers, (HOMOSEXUALITY) for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.
See also: Romans 1
And 2 Peter chapter 2: 10-19
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
1 John 1:6. If we say that we have fellowship with Jesus, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth;
Mishael: the prayers of a parent on their knees, praying for children, can effect MIRACLES. Learn Ephesians 6. The enemy is invisible, but the personality is open for all to see.
Hello, the Bible doesn't directly address such a topic, but it clearly says homosexuality is a sin and detestable to God.
I don't believe anyone is born with a desire to commit sodomy. Children aren't born with a lust to commit heterosexual fornication or adultery either.
It's shameful how society has tried so hard to sexualize children and force or brainwash them into confirming to others' ideals- usually the parents, teachers, or other influencers. Later in life children will grow into young adults and will face increasing temptation. People often confuse ones choices and opportunity as somehow being personality and orientation-defining things. In reality, people face temptation of sin and have a choice to make each time, regardless of their perceived self-identity. Many flip flop on what they think they want, even throughout life. This and many other factors debunk the 'born that way' lie.
Evidence shows that how a child is raised plays a signficant role in how they view the world, including their interest in the opposite sex. Those with drama at home or a missing parent has a significant impact.
So, when parents assume their child is gay I wonder: what is their definition of gay? Just because someone currently uses more femine or masculine behavior doesn't automatically equate to them wanting and choosing to commit the sin of sodomy.
Sadly, we hear all kinds of satanic worldly morals on TV propaganda and in movies trying to deceive people into believing that unnatural relations are 'normal'. God is very clear in his Word what He thinks of it. He loves everyone and wants the best for them and believe He has compassion on anyone struggling with their identity, but for those who intentionally commit evil and vile perversions against God they will reap what they sow. All must choose whether to conform to the world's morals or to God's morals. 1 John 2:15. God bless.
That's what I would do. Love covers a multitude of sins. Love is a good place to start. It doesn't mean you have to be converted to someone else's choices. We have to believe what the Bible says. Instead, you are the Prodigal sons father. Just keep looking for his return.
You're going have to give yourself to something way bigger than you ever imagined. You take your place beside Jesus: who is seated at the right hand of God the Father. Jesus ever lives to make Intercession for the Saints. As I have done_ you sit and pray for your child; for all parents of all Christian/backslid kids.
Don't give voice to any negative comments. That's exactly what Satan wants. He's the Accuser, Betrayer, Murderer of love. Only your prayers are stronger than Satans Plans. Pray Psalm 51 over your son plus passages you find, like diamonds.
I waited 15 years for my son to stop blaming God for "hating gays". I never said that. It's something they imagine. A LIE Satan told them. That's why I said, to be the Prodigals dad. He will come to his senses in time; as my son did. He's not gay. He just appointed himself to defend gay people.
Maybe it's dumb, but I took roast dinners to his house to share with him and his wife. When I was making the meal_I asked the Lord to fill it with blessing, goodness and the love of family. Each mouthful of food was filled with hope and sure expectation. I even rejoiced in washing the dishes. :)
I would see the prodigal on the road, to return to his roots. Our God. My son taught me to be supportive and not condemn. Let go and Let God figure it out. Let love have it's perfection in Christ.
I always let gays know they are ACCEPTED in the BELOVED. I truly believe in the Love of God to find The Way, the Truth, the Life. Amen.
Mishael
When my sons turned from faith and met hardships as teens, I crried, grieved, and prayed. At one point I spoke to God and said, Lord God, I know that You love my sons more than I ever could and that You are working in their lives 24/7 and I cannot, so I leave them into Your hands.
I have continued to pray for them (it's been 20 years) and believe that God will answer my prayers and bring them back to faith in Him. Like You, have contended in the Spirit to restore family time and harmony. We are more connected now than 20 years ago. I just love them, helming them when they have a need, being flexible to their schedules do we can have dinners together a few times a month(with three adult sons it is hard to find days where all three can come over).
We go shooting together, as we are all learning to shoot with accuracy. My oldest is the best skilled and most knowledgeable about gun use.
All my sons like to cook with me. We hope to work on canning together this summer.
We have always love camping, so we try to get in at least
One trip each summer.
I know that all these things are really important. They don''t ask a lot of spiritual questions, but I let them know I pray for them and talk about world events and relate them to The Bible without "preaching" (which they aren't open to) But I know that the time will come when they ask me more about my faith or their dad, and I pray for God to send believing wives to them soon along with believing friends.
But as for a parent of a child who says they are gay. It is important to kindly take a stance against the sin and offering hope in Christ. And if course letting the child know you are praying for them (and do it!). They may not be thrilled that you pray for them, but I believe deep down, they are miserable and are thankful someone is praying to God for them as they may not feel like they can pray to Him as a gay person.Thanks for your good counsel. It is heartbreaking to have one's child apostasize.
When I was baptized, my son was 6. He insisted being baptized with me. I asked the Pastor to quiz him on his request. Pastor gave the go ahead. I was blessed! So happy.
In his 20's three friends died of different reasons. My nephew, like a son to me; died in a firey 18 wheeler crash. I know my son felt that God had betrayed him somehow. All I could do was pray for both of us.
He wouldn't even listen to me if I said anything about God_ Until recently. His son is in a Christian school; my daughter in law is a Christian. My grandson received salvation at his school. He was so happy! I keep praying for them. My son doesn't have to be anyone except himself. Every so often I "think out loud", that I will be so happy to go fishing with my Dad, grand-dad, and Travis.
We had many happy lake memories.
Have a listen to my friend, Charles Capps, on YouTube. He had great insight into how to get more done, through prayer. Sometimes it feels like they are restrained by the devil. Memories of losses are powerful. I know it's "not welcome", but I drop occasional "praise the Lord", when he gives me some good news. :). Or I'll say how my grandson is like his humble and kind grandfather.
I guess I'm saying, don't cower behind their objections. I just take it to the closet. The Lord is faithful to listen. I know God sees everyone on each day of their lives, Alpha and Omega. I just thank him in advance for the day my son says in his heart_how grateful he is for his many blessings! And that he wants to forgive God, so he can be forgiven. That's all God requires.
We have to plow that fallow ground of their hearts. Break up the clods with OUR tears; toss out rocks of disappointments. Lay down our pride and pick up humility_and stay behind the plow. I ask God to bless them no matter what and bring me a good report some day. He wants to see Travis as much as Trav wants to see him. Travis was humble and sweet.
Thank you for the encouragement. I know that
God will accomplish in my dons' lives what He wills, and His will is for our good. At times it it hard to wait, but waiting prayerfully with faith is something many of us must learn to do as part of our own growth in Christ.
God is long suffering so we should also be.
For me, aside from their own spiritual welfare, I tend to grieve over the time lost as a family that we all could be of one mind in Christ instead of divided as we now are. But,
I do look forward to the time when we will be a Christ serving family again and have our conversations filled with the truth of Christ and His word. Until then, I look for and ask God for those opportunities to share the good that God does in my life with my sons.
We can pray for each other's kids. My sons are Brian, Rob, and Kevin. Is your son's name Travis?
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
This is what every country is experiencing. The Bible says that it will 'wax worse and worse.' Your faith needs to be strong in what the New Testament teaches on these Last Days before Jesus's Return.
The unsaved will be in these comment rooms preaching their heresies. They are reprobate. Don't listen to their rants.
1 Timothy 1:9-10
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
For whoremongers, for THEM that defile themselves with MANKIND, for menstealers, (HOMOSEXUALITY) for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.
See also: Romans 1
And 2 Peter chapter 2: 10-19
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption
Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
1 John 1:6. If we say that we have fellowship with Jesus, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth;
Mishael: the prayers of a parent on their knees, praying for children, can effect MIRACLES. Learn Ephesians 6. The enemy is invisible, but the personality is open for all to see.
I don't believe anyone is born with a desire to commit sodomy. Children aren't born with a lust to commit heterosexual fornication or adultery either.
It's shameful how society has tried so hard to sexualize children and force or brainwash them into confirming to others' ideals- usually the parents, teachers, or other influencers. Later in life children will grow into young adults and will face increasing temptation. People often confuse ones choices and opportunity as somehow being personality and orientation-defining things. In reality, people face temptation of sin and have a choice to make each time, regardless of their perceived self-identity. Many flip flop on what they think they want, even throughout life. This and many other factors debunk the 'born that way' lie.
Evidence shows that how a child is raised plays a signficant role in how they view the world, including their interest in the opposite sex. Those with drama at home or a missing parent has a significant impact.
So, when parents assume their child is gay I wonder: what is their definition of gay? Just because someone currently uses more femine or masculine behavior doesn't automatically equate to them wanting and choosing to commit the sin of sodomy.
Sadly, we hear all kinds of satanic worldly morals on TV propaganda and in movies trying to deceive people into believing that unnatural relations are 'normal'. God is very clear in his Word what He thinks of it. He loves everyone and wants the best for them and believe He has compassion on anyone struggling with their identity, but for those who intentionally commit evil and vile perversions against God they will reap what they sow. All must choose whether to conform to the world's morals or to God's morals. 1 John 2:15. God bless.
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