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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 181654

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Karen Cohen - 2 years ago
    What kind of special gifts does God give us?
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The Father sent the Son to save us. The Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit to regenerate us, cleans us, live in us and sanctify us. This was a two-fer, so to speak. Both gifts are eternally priceless.

    The Holy Spirit in us will manifest good things in us by His choice and power. Asking for Him to direct our lives and work through us will bring an awareness of how He manifests in us as we interact in the Body of Christ (the Church).
  • Glenn - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Could be as simple as a smile, or charisma,. or the ability to make other feel better,.. it's not anything that's hard , or even unexpected, it happens organically, by just being yourself.
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply - 2 years ago
    1 Corinthians

    Chapter 12

    1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

    2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

    3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    4Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    5And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

    6And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

    7But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

    8For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

    9To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

    10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

    11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello everyone, i do not mean now and interfere here, but must mention in passing that there are many different gifts in the Holy Spirit. Some are described in 1 Corinthians 13-14 chapter.

    Be blessed all, halleluja the Lord Is Good! Jesus Christ my savior!
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Karen,

    According to the Bible, the only gift that is given to a believer is the gift of the Holy Spirit. There is scripture that talks about the "gifts of the Spirit," but the word gift is not the word that means a gift that is given.

    If the Lord leads you to do so, I would encourage you to do a study in the New Testament on the word gift or gifts and you will see that the word gift or gifts is either in italics, meaning it is not found in the original Greek text, or it is the word CHARIS which means grace. It has nothing to do with a gift that is given to us.

    This is where we get the word CHARISMA from which means an expression of God's grace.

    The word DIDOMI in the Greek language is another word used for gift and it literally means a gift that is given. Again, if you do an honest study on every place in the NT where the word gift or gifts is used, you are only going to find one place where the word is used and it actually means a gift that is given. It is the gift of the Holy Spirit. That is the only gift that we are given. Every other place you find the word gift or gifts it is going to be the word CHARIS or CHARISMA which is an expression of God's grace, not a gift that's given to us.

    We are only given one gift and it is the gift of the Holy Spirit.
  • S Spencer. - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother Jesse.

    Thank you again for this very important info, It makes a huge difference when studying in this area.

    When you start there with that information and do the homework as you suggested it changes all perspectives.

    Your efforts is appreciated and not wasted.

    God bless.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother Spencer,

    Thank you! We hear the phrase "gifts of the Spirit," and people talking about what gift God has given to either themselves, or they want to know what gift God has given to you. They mention a few 1 Corinthians, especially chapter 12 that mentions "gifts of the Spirit," but the word gifts in 1 Corinthians 12:1 is in italics which means that in the Greek text, the word gifts is not even there. So it is not talking about spiritual gifts. But for some reason, the translators put it there and it has created a lot of confusion, and causing people are seeking after gifts from God when in reality the only gift that we are given is the gift of the Holy Spirit.

    I used to seek for these "spiritual gifts" because I thought I was missing out. But if I have the Holy Spirit living inside of me, what more do I need? I lack nothing if I have His Spirit. My belief on "gifts" has changed over the years. The further I get into my study of the Greek language, the more I come to learn that all these places where I see the word gift or gifts, it's not talking about a gift that is given to anyone.

    There's more than one Greek word for the word gift. We don't get the true meaning from our English bibles. All we see is the word gift or gifts, and we think it means something that is given and received.

    But in our bibles, every place we see the word gift used, if we look at what word is used in the Greek, we come to see that all the "gifts" people say we can receive are not gifts at all. There is a Greek word that means a gift that is given and it is found in scripture where is says we are given the gift of the Holy Spirit. Again, according to the bible, the Holy Spirit is the only gift that is given to us. The only way to come to this conclusion about the word gift/s is to look at what Greek is being used. If it's the word CHARIS or CHARISMA, then it's not a gift that is given. If it is the word DOREA, or the verb form DIDOMI, that means to give.

    Blessings to you also!
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    That was very interesting & enlightening, brother Jesse. It would be so easy for the average reader, without knowledge of the Greek, to look at 1 Corinthians 12:4 ("Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit": 'gifts' not in italics) & compare it with, say, Acts 10:45 ("...because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost"), & not see, as you've explained, that the same word given in English is not the same in Greek. The former, 'charismaton', & the second, 'dorea'.

    We would naturally read the word 'gift(s)', as the one & the same, whether the gift of the Spirit or the gifts He bestows, yet the meaning of a 'Divine bestowing of Grace' that comes from the initial gift of the Spirit seems closer to the original. Some could argue that one would be pedantic since the difference between the two is negligible, but that's where the Scripture becomes more real & meaningful when we learn & retain such knowledge. Thanks again.



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