Bible Discussion Thread

In the Bible is there a verse that talks pacifically about the (Paradise) intermediate Heaven, the place that we go to when our spirit leaves the body today?

Not the New Heaven that is very clear, and I get chills every time I read about it, it's so exciting and I look forward to it.

But the intermediate I'm not able to find much about it even though there are a few things.

Thanks!

I will quote some verses; I suggest that you look at google to find where they are and exact wording. In the time before Christ; as the parable of Lazarus and the rich man (nameless) demonstrate from a REAL story not an allegory; that the souls of men (ALL) remained under the earth; either in paradise or in sheol (both were under the earth at the time). Clearly; one was a pleasant place and one of torment. When Christ died; he promised the thief on the cross that "today you shall be with me in paradise." That meant what it said for THAT day; at that point Christ according to Peter "proclaimed" or preached to those who were under the earth; then led "captivity captive." Therefore; three days later many PHYSICALLY resurrected it would seem from scripture; and ALL souls of the righteous were delivered as Satan no longer had any AUTHORITY to hold anyone as he did previous to Christ's atonement in time and space; therefore as Corinthians states "absent from the body is present with the Lord." Under the earth; therefore it is erroneous that some in reformed circles and perhaps others state that anyone is in paradise under the earth except for the unregenerate today. There are of course spiritual beings there as well; some of the angels in a separate area called "Tartarus" or the bottomless pit. The "New Jerusalem" simply is the CITY IN heaven; which would appear to be a body or planetary type object. It will; according to scripture eventually land on earth after being suspended above during the Millennium. People will clearly be AWARE of God and Christ on the throne by the sixth seal in Revelation.

Hey Jeff,

It will be hard to find, the closest you will get is a parable in Luke 16. If you read the chapter and the context it is against the love of money and wealth. When Jesus first came the Greek influence was widespread many were Hellenized.

When our spirit leaves our body and goes to intermediate heaven does not come from scripture, it comes from Plato. His definition of death is the separation of the soul from the body. Hades the Underworld where the dead went, a subterranean region, the world of the dead where all souls passed after their time on earth, Elysium was paradise.

If you look for scripture you will find sleep in the earth until the resurrection, Job 7:21 Job 14:12-14 Job 17:13-16 Psalm 89:48 Psalm 115:17 Daniel 12:2 Ecclesiastes 9:10

God bless,

RLW

Luke ,.. read the book of Luke ,.. it's in there

Peace

Paul talked about being taken to the 3rd heaven in his vision or actually being taken he said he did not know but he saw heaven and describes as the 3rd heaven. Jesus told the thief today you shall be with me in paradise. Some say the air from the earth to the atmosphere is the 1st heaven from the atmosphere to heaven is the 2nd and beyond that is the 3rd heaven. The Catholic's believe in purgatory, and some equate paradise with that as being the same. We know upon Christ return the dead in Christ will be raised from the dead but so will the lost souls as well. Do we go to heaven when we die we know our bodies don't but what about our sours and our spirit? The belief is our spirit that God breathed into Adam that we all have that gives us life returns to God, but our soul which is us sleeps and the Bible often refers to death as sleep in both the old and new testaments. Genesis 1:8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. look at verses 6&7 6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. the firmament he called heaven? So if you go beyond Heaven you'll find water? notice Heaven is capitalized a place.

Psalms 49:15

"But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah." implies our soul is in the grave. Ecclesiastes 9:10

"Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest."

Psalms 30:3

"O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave: thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit."

Ecclesiastes 3:21

"Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?"

That's all I got,

King James Version (KJV)

2Corinthians 2:4, Luke 23:43, Revelation 2:7, Luke 16:19-31,