Bible Discussion Thread

These verses clearly indicate the period of time stretching from the Tribulation into the judgment immediately after into the beginning of the 1000 year rule of Christ on earth.

The first four verses show that once Antichrist and his armies are done with the work God has designed them to do through His Divine counsel to totally break the remnant of the saints (as Daniel states); and to bring national repentance for all who enter the Millennium; He will cause the same fate to be given to Israel's enemies as what they performed on them.

The next couple verses may indicate either those individuals trusting in God and or the future fulfillment of the peace of Israel following the time of Jacob's trouble. Verses 7 through 8 once again show the false peace and the effects on those in league with the Antichrist with the Daniel 9:27 covenant and the bewilderment following his betrayal. Verses 10 through 12 seem to indicate the "thorns" or tares who are in Armageddon and burned up with God's fierce indignation; while 13 through 17 show the characteristics of those who can dwell with "everlasting fire" (v. 14) with the answer in the following verse; which shows the characteristic of a Godly man. The rest of the chapter is clearly a Millennial promise for those who have endured the terror (v18 and 19) in the Tribulation; v. 17 shows how the throne of Messiah in Jerusalem will be visible from far away; verses 20 through 24 show the effect of physical healing and the permanence of His tabernacle where He shall rule throughout the 1000 years; with perhaps a literal description in verse 21 of waters from the throne much like that of the end of Ezekiel where the waters will make the Dead Sea be full of fish and partially freshwater (except for the borderline in the reeds). Such an intrusion of waters already is being observed with life in the Dead Sea showing this time may be very near indeed.

The 1st verse says it all. When Babylon takes rest from treachery and spoiling, they will be treacherously spoiled by the beast.

Hi Richard.

The Millennium doctrine maintains that the judgment will not come until after the 1,000 years. Your first sentence contradicts that right off the bat.

You are actually correct about everything up to the Millennium part. The Tribulation will come, then immediately after that Jesus returns, gathers His saints and the Wrath of God destruction of the earth (judgment of the earth and all sinners) ensues. After that is the New Heaven and New Earth. No Millennium time period at all. Jesus just reigns for eternity after all that. This coincides perfectly with these main end time verses.

Matt. 24:29-31

Isaiah 13:9-11

And does not coincide whatsoever with Rev. 20:1-7. Look at Rev. 19 and you will see that sinners and the beast and false prophet are already gone before Rev. 20 even begins. That's why you can't translate chapter 20 literally OR linearly. Chapter 10 tells us all time stops. ???

The small portion of scripture from Rev. 20:1 to 20:7 cannot be confirmed by any other scripture anywhere in the Bible. If you look at it enough, you will see this.