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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 182820

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Raymond Kelly - 2 years ago
    The sin in the garden. Someone with wisdom please.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It would appear that Satan used an actual serpent to deliver his message; and the collateral damage caused future snakes to have to be cursed to crawl in the dust in the future after that event. There was; as with Lucifer originally; always the potential to sin but man was created upright. In the mind and vain imaginations is where all temptations originate; and ultimately there is a spiritual origin for our actions (whether the god of this world or God Almighty). Clearly; Satan's aim after his own fall from heaven ( Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28) was to seek worship for himself. From the "beginning" as Christ stated he was a liar which would mean from the beginning from our vantage point at an indeterminate time after his rebellion; and leadership drawing 1/3 of the angels out of heaven to worship him. The tree of life would give man an eternally existing natural body; and in the case of Adam and his wife; mercifully it was restricted from him after they succumbed to the other tree of the "knowledge of good and evil". The temptation made man think God was holding out; and that there was "hidden wisdom". God never intended for us to comprehend evil; as God Himself cannot be tempted nor tempts anyone. God used Satan as an agent to test Adam and Eve's integrity and trust in Him (knowing of course that they would fall). The provision of the deadly wound for Satan; and the piercing of the Messiah was already foreshadowed in the prophecy in chapter 3. Without the law; as Paul states in Romans we were "dead to sin". We were not meant to know about rebellion which basically takes our love from God and focuses it on self.

    This hidden wisdom or "third eye" is the gateway to demonic possession rather than the Spirit as the guide in all wisdom. Christ had to take the wrath of God for our sin; whose nature from there on was passed on through the generations of man.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Raymond.

    Disobedience.

    God gave them a Commandment not eat of the tree of "Knowledge of good and evil.

    It seems there was something significant about that Knowledge.

    Perhaps it's what they would do once they found out they were naked. "Cover themselves?"

    Naked here may mean

    "sin/flesh exposed. Vulnerable.

    Before they were created there was a Savior ordained to come that would be an atonement for the whole world.

    God bless
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Raymond.

    If you are asking: What was the sin in the Garden of Eden? then this may help. Before Adam and Eve sinned, they did not even know what sin was nor what it was like to be tempted. They did not know there was even a tempter who was opposed to God and a deceiver. They were ignorant of all of these things. They only knew God and His goodness to them. They lived in a state of innocence concerning sin, suffering curse. They walked and talked with God daily.

    At some point, God gave them a commandment. In His great wisdom, He deemed this necessary in order for His pent-ultimate purpose for creation to be accomplished, which is salvation. The commandment was to not eat of one particular tree that was easily accessed in the Garden as were all of the other trees. the tree of Life was there also, within reach. How long Adam and Eve went ignoring the tree of good and evil we do not know. At some point, the tempter appeared and spoke with Eve about the fruit of the tree of the knowledge good and evil. He combined the truth with error to deceive Eve into eating the fruit and Adam also ate of it. They believed the words of the tempter instead of words of God and thus disobeyed God's command. they thought they would become like God by eating the fruit. They knew that God was far greater than they themselves were. Why would they not want to be more like Him? They thought they would be improved by eating the fruit. They thought that disobeying God was just a small thing in light of the improvement the tempter promised. They thought that surely this tempter must have been sent from God as they did not know that He had created any being that became evil yet. All these things could have been what they thought.

    So, what was their sin? Technically, it was breaking the commandment that God had given them. They ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good an evil. They used their free will to go against what God had commanded. They doubted His word, also.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    James 1:5,

    Romans 5:12-21, 1Corinthians 15:42-58, 1Corinthians 15:21-22,

    Hopefully these are helpful.



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