Bible Discussion Thread

What is it that we r supposed to have faith in ? God , His words that He has spoken that we read in the Bible , He will do what He has said He will , His Word made flesh Jesus Christ , His righteousness , His understanding which is limitless , His wisdom knowledge power beauty , and especially His love for us and His mercy . As a Father pitiest His children so He pities us and is very willing to forgive us if our heart belongs to Him , He knows our weaknesses , we need to trust in His love ,not in His laws but in His Son and what His Son did for us because of love . Think of the people u love most . How much do u love them ? Till it hurts right ? God loves u more than that .

Dear Brother your church has lead you astray for the Laws of God can Not be broken. Your church has taught you all that the Laws of God are no longer biding. This is a false teaching...

Matt 5:17

Whoever therefore breaks One of the Least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the Kingdom of Heaven.

It every clear in the Book of Revelation how important it is to keep Gods Commandments.

REV 14:12

Here is the patience of the saints, here are those who keep the commandments of God and the Faith of Yeshua.

REV 15:3

They sing the song of Moses, the servant of God and the song of the Lamb.

REV 21:3

Behold the Tabernacle of God is with men and he will dwell with them and they shall be his people, God himself will be with them and be their God.

REV 21:27

But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles, or causes an abomination or a lie but only those who are written in the Lambs book of Life.

So the 4th commandment the world has broken, Keep the Sabbath day Holy a day of Rest from all labours

the Sabbath is Saturday the Seal of God the world has broken.

Sunday is the day of worship Christ Yeshua has risen.

Saturday = God is the seal

Sunday = Yeshua has risen.

God's children have the Laws written on their hearts.....Return back to God and you will feel the Holy Spirit like Never before. It is satan that has deceived the world with the Sabbath Why? because he knows if you brake ONE of the least of God commandments you will Not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.....

God bless you

So u keep all the laws of Moses ? U sacrifice a lamb every morning and every evening ?

Grae - in Reply

So u keep all the laws of Moses ? U sacrifice a lamb every morning and every evening ? No we do Not sacrifice animals these are part of the 613 Laws that God abolished and gave us the new 10 Commandments to keep.

God bless.

I'm sorry to tell u this but most of those 600 and something laws that u talk about were not given to Moses until after the ten commandments were , so the ten commandments did not replace them .

Im sorry but Moses was given the 10 commandments no where in the Bible of the New testament dose it say to continue in animal sacrifice. Christ Yeshua is our new covenant. Could I ask you what scripture do you refer to in Galatians. For in Galatians 2:18 St Paul destroyed the works of the Law, The transgressor here is one who tries to reinstitute the Jewish Law.

We die through the law not bypassing or dishonoring it but by recongnizing that it is holy, that we deserve its consequence death and that we voluntarily die to the Law through our death with Christ being crucified with Christ through Baptism we come alive to the law of the Spirit which perfects the intention of the OT law. There is no contradiction between law and gospel. The law is holy and just and good ROM 7:12 However the Law is weak Rom 8:3 and obsolete Heb 8:13 for it is fulfilled in the gospel in Christ Himself....God bless you

You just said it yourself , the law is weak and obsolete , your words . And I will say it one more time , I've never said that people shouldn't obey the ten commandments . Not gonna keep repeating it . God bless you .

You have to understand who the Apostle Paul was talking to in this verse and keep it in historical context. He was talking not to the heathen gentiles who were not born in the law and under the law and with the law of Moses, but were immersed in their idols. He was talking to the lost sheep of the house of true Israel, who were scattered outside the commonwealth and were cast away by the Most High and were assimilated into Roman culture Hellenized. They were who the disciples and the ministry of Paul was sent to seek out and bring back into the fold. There was no such things as a cult called Christianity or Christendom back then nor one established by Christ the Israelite, or any denomination that will get any of us into the kingdom when he comes to set it us up in it. This is relationship not not ritualism or religious affiliation. Grace in this context was a pardon, and a chance to do it over, and to be given more time, power, and mercy to make the transition from one under the curse of the law unto the Reformation unto that of the New Covenant, New Commandments, New Life and New Kingdom through faith in Christ that would lead to the blessing of the promises made to Father Abraham for both Jews [Judah & Ephraim] by blood and nationality and then to the Gentiles, Strangers and aliens. Our repentance and our return back to the Most High Father through faith and the finished works of the one whom he sent [Christ Yashaya] is not the same but the result is depending on who we are and out measure of faith given, used and received.

If u read the laws of Moses will c that there were certain things in there which were to b observed perpetually and throughout all generations . The evening and morning sacrifice was one of those things . I would appreciate it if u could show me in the Bible where God abolished those things . Luke Ch 10 V 25-28 . With love and respect in Christ , please read Galatians . I have no desire to b contentious , we are all Christians and we all read the same Bible . I believe every word of it , that means Galatians also . May God continue to bless u every day .

Hi Grae

In answer to your question about keeping all the laws of Moses ? and sacrifice a lamb every morning and every evening ?

My understanding is the 10 commandments are Gods Law/ Moral Law and is unchangeable, binding all of every age and over rules Man's Law.

Law of Moses is Ceremonial Law/ Sacrificial system. it's rites pointed to our promised Saviour, Jesus Christ. After sacrificing his life for us, Ceremonial/ Sacrificial system became null and void. It is the purpose of the enemy to lead people to confuse Gods Law/ Moral Law with the Ceremonial Law.

References; Ephesians 2:15, Colossians 2: 14-17, Hebrews 9: 8-9

Blessed be in Christ

Charrisse. You may care to look at those two Scriptures particularly in the Greek ( Ephesians 2:15 & Colossians 2:14). I believe that you're focussing of the words, "the law of commandments contained in ordinances" and "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances".

The same Greek word is used in both instances for 'ordinances', viz. "dogmasin", from which we get, 'dogma'. And in these Scriptures, it is translated as 'decrees or edicts'. So when we read these Scriptures by the apostle, the 'law of commandments & handwriting of ordinances' did not apply solely to the ceremonial laws & of the sacrifices which indeed Christ fulfilled at the Cross, but also to the whole Law that was "blotted out" completely. It had to be so, or else the old Law would still stand, the Jew would have to be bound to it & hence judged by it. But Jesus came to rid the Law that only showed one's sin & brought certain death. By His Sacrifice, the old had gone & the new had come, that from henceforth, "we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter." ( Romans 7:6). Yet, most Jews are still bound to the old Law & by it they will be judged.

Yes, there is a distinction in the moral, civil & ceremonial laws, as seen in the OT. But when the New Covenant was brought in by Christ's Blood, the old Law in totality was annulled - it had to be as both the old & new opposed each other by their: giving, obedience, acceptance & judgement (i.e. received by faith, given power to obey, our acceptance through Christ, & now no condemnation to those in Christ Jesus). Under the old Law that could never be achieved & that's why it took the death of the Son of God.

Hi "Grae" Many times we Christians are also tempted in the periphery by all the sins we can commit, but this is where we have Grace and lean on and all promises. But one thing we Need too do is to confess our sin to each other. And that can be a hard One. Here justice comes in with full force, so we are righteous, we rejoice and settle our cases to God and other people for whom we have made some mistake. Simply apologize for it! This does not come from people either, because we like to hold back everything we are ashamed of. Our conscience is the Holy Spirit and He drives us to good works.

Therefore, we have nothing to brag about. Everything comes from God the Father Himself. And this applies to all people.

A little personal now. I read the Bible for 20 years (and didnt understand what i read!)before i really bowed the knee and wanted to repent from evil deeds to the torment of Almighty God. Over the years, he has demanded much more than i could have imagined. But it is only a matter of choice and even compromise. It is always the Lord who is right but fortunately He is patient with us all and wants everyone to come to the knowledge of truth, and be saved.

It seems that you are full of doubt. Thomas Jesus' disciple. He doubted so much that he was not even completely convinced even though he was allowed to touch the Lord's Hands and Feet. Faith is something wonderful. And it is not given from any man but from God Himself.

The only thing i can do is say to you, dear look and feel your conscience. There you can find justice. And be patient att all time do good things and love all ppl u have around u. And believe in God that He says in His Word is true. And believe that Jesus is the Son of God. Do this and if we not meet at this side of death. So know that we will meet in the coming! God bless you with revelations and joy and peace as long as you live on this earth. In Jesus Christ holy Name. Love u in Christ.

Blessed to be dear friend of Matthew chapter 3

Hallo Grae :) Good question personally I think only God has the answer to this. We know that God has not forgotten them.

Many that are first shall be last; and the last first." Mark 10:31

It is Jesus who says these words in connection with the fact that everything is possible for God. Among other things, Jesus says in the passage here: in Mark 10:24

God bless us in Jesus name and in time we will understand all. Be happy and stay saved in Jesus Holy Name.