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  • Michael - 2 years ago
    Were the sons of god mentioned in the old testament the ones who went in unto the daughters of men and bred the giants (Nephelim)?. Now I know that angels cannot breed, so that rules them out. The men who first began to call upon the name of the lord were called the sons of god. So could you clarify for me?
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The term "sons of God" are said to always refer to angels; while Sons of God are godly humans. In any event; Christ stated that at the Resurrection; man would no longer marry and be as the angels in heaven. This does not discount those who "left their first estate" mentioned (I think) either in Jude and or Peter. When they left heaven they basically had an agenda to stop the Messiah from being born by contaminating all the offspring. Nephilim was only one offspring for the angels when they had relations with these women. Others are mentioned in Deuteronomy (Goliath and his brothers apparently the last of that breed AFTER the flood).

    Noah was said to be "perfect in all his ways"; clearly still a fallen human being (proven by his drunken state after coming out of the ark). He and his family were the only ones whose DNA was not contaminated. Christ also couldn't save these hybrid beings; hence they had no hope of heaven. There are some who suggest that certain offspring mentioned in Isaiah have no resurrection; the angels that started this sin are chained up currently in Tartarus. There was also the desire of worship; that these "men of renown" certainly inspired among unregenerate in ancient days. These men would build giant structures throughout the world that can't be explained and inspire the drawings of UFO's seen in ancient heiroglyphics.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi dear, I would appreciate if you could give references to scriptures or books what you are talking about becouse something is unknown to me.

    Be blessed in His Holy Name Jesus Christ. In words from Matthew chapter 3
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    John 21:25, if Jesus CHRIST's acts could not be contained & HIS ministry was about 3 yrs. Then how could we expect on earth all the information about the days before the flood? Yet GOD in HIS infinite wisdom gives us more than enough.

    I believe these are the scriptures, you're looking for: John 1:12,

    Genesis 4:26, Genesis 5:22-24, Genesis 6:1-7,

    Revelation 22:18,19, Deuteronomy 4:2,
  • Samuel.KJBB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    - "Were the sons of god mentioned in the old testament the ones who went in unto the daughters of men and bred the giants (Nephelim)?"

    Yes, see Genesis 6. It is plainly stated in v4. This is why God decides to destroy all flesh except Noah who is perfect (whole) in his gene-rations (DNA?). Also see Genesis 3:15 and notice there will be a serpent's seed and the woman's seed.

    - "Now I know that angels cannot breed, so that rules them out."

    The Bible says that the angels in HEAVEN are not given in MARRIAGE ( Matthew 22:30 & Mark 12:25). It does not say the angels do not have the ability to rebel (we know they do) and leave heaven to procreate with women on earth. Jude 4 references God punishing angels harshly who left their first estate (heaven) and own habitation. Why? Well, cross reference Genesis 6: they cohabitated or married and bore children with women against God's will. Remember the two seeds in Genesis 3?

    - "The men who first began to call upon the name of the lord were called the sons of god. So could you clarify for me?"

    Actually, this is a myth about the line of Seth. Genesis 4:25 mentions Seth having a son named Enos and then after that men began to call upon the name of the LORD. The Bible does not call them sons of God. Mankind lost that sonship when Adam sinned. It is only restored after the cross when one receives the Lord Jesus Christ ( John 1:12).

    - So who does the Bible refer to as sons of God?:

    "sons of God"

    Referenced 5 times in the OT & is always a reference to heavenly beings directly created by God.

    Referenced 6 times in the NT for the saved who are born of God.

    "son of God" in Luke 3:38 is reference to Adam when he was created directly by God.

    "Son of God" is references 46 times. 45 times in the NT for the Lord Jesus and once in the OT ( Daniel 3:25) is a reference to the Lord pre-incarnate.
  • Ninan T Karimpil - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes True .



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