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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 184025

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  • Holly Allen - 2 years ago
    What does it mean to be announced? Is this the indwelling of the Holy Spirit? In old testament( and of course Yeshua) those that Yahweh chose as kings were annointed.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Holly. I'm unsure which Scripture you're thinking of, nor of the word 'announced' (maybe a misspelling), but I'll use 1 John 2:27, "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."

    You're correct, there were different 'anointings' mentioned in Scripture, & specifically in the NT, in reference to the Holy Spirit and also combined with prayer for healing ( James 5:14). The 1 John 2:27 reference alludes to Jesus' Words about the future coming of the Holy Spirit to the apostles ( John 14:16,17): "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you."

    In that passage, Jesus speaks of the time when He will leave this Earth & leave His beloved friends & disciples. But they should not despair as He would still be with them by His Spirit that He will send to them. So, not only will the Spirit "abide with them forever", but also 'dwell with them & be in them'. This is an intensely descriptive message of Love by Jesus, that at no time will His disciples (& us, by extension), would ever be without His loving, comforting, & guiding Presence. They would never be in this world of darkness & evil without the Lord's watchful care. Then at Pentecost, that Presence came & they were anointed with the Spirit & filled with His Presence to be children of God serving Him in joy, power, & hope. And that same anointing comes to each one who confesses their sin & truly believes in Jesus & His Power to save them.

    John 14:23, "If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him", is Jesus' Promise to us.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Well said Chris.

    Sometimes we forget how Jesus is connected to the Father and the Spirit in the One divine nature. So, even if Jesus ascended to heaven, He can truly say that He will be with them always by the presence of the indwelling Spirit in us. We can this also think that Jesus left us to the Spirit when He ascended to heaven. But He is actually with us always as long as we are indwelt by the

    Spirit.

    This passage really speaks to Jesus being God and One with the Father and the Spirit. Technically, because of their unity, if we have the Spirit in us we have both the Father and the Son within as well, yet they are individual Persons as well yet fill the universe with their presence. Even though Jesus is in heaven with his human body, He still has all of the qualities the Spirit and the Father possess, such as omnipresence, omnipotence, omniscience, immutability, eternality, infiniteness, holiness, purity, self-sufficiency, self satisfaction, and of course Life itself How amazing!
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Very true GiGi, with wonderful descriptions of our wonderful, sovereign Lord. And the thought from John 14:23, is that the Deity comes, not just to be found as a Presence or a Seal in the believer, but that He comes to reside (or, be perfectly at home), in us.

    It's like when a guest who comes to stay for a few days, he receives the best we have to offer, with special care. Why? Because he is a worthy guest, compelling us to attend to his every need. How much more that Almighty God should want to live in us & feel completely at home. It's now only left to our imagination & decision as to how we view our Guest from Heaven; spending time listening & conversing with Him; going where He is pleased to go; thinking & speaking of things that which He delights in; keeping our 'house' clean of anything that would grieve Him; etc.

    I think that we often forget the sweet Presence of God's Spirit & the liberty we have to commune with Him on any matter at any time. And to please Him that He might be pleased to dwell in us, we would live accordingly ('walking in the Spirit', conscious of His nearness & His gentle Voice). And so when we stray, even a little, we should immediately sense His sadness & anxious looking for our return. I believe it takes quite a discipline & maturity to immediately look to Him for everything in life, particularly when we're under testing & sin is knocking at our door. He won't allow it in - why should we even feel for the door handle & want to take a peek? I'm learning this daily - He's a great Teacher - sadly I'm a slow learner, but we'll get there in the end.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Chris and Gigi!

    well stated.

    Bless you both.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you, Chris.

    You have blessed me this morning!



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