Bible Discussion Thread

I have a question regarding being born of the water and spirit. What exactly does this mean?

Hi "Ruth" all answer is right, a personal experience here, i did not know where i stood. I wandered here and there, and unfortunately i also followed the spirit of the times in this world, the antichrist.

Because since we that time still where "children", we have every right not to know everything, every right to ask, explore, learn and so on. We still do Everyday. 2 Thessalonians 1:12 Acts 8:16

But when the Spirit in us awakens, we will no longer go around making mistakes. The Holy Spirit helps us if we let Him lead us where we do belongs. Namely with God in our Spirit where we can find strength, courage and forgiveness Spirit and the Spirit of love. And everything else good is there.

That Spirit makes us living Sources who speak right and do right because we believe in Jesus Christ Is the Son of God. Nor will the Holy Spirit ever stop and give us words in our mouths to preach about Jesus Christ. John 7:38

So when i walked around there in the dark before God found me. I did not have this Source because i was not filled with the Holy Spirit.

But here we come to something central and important. All God gives us is Grace over Grace. Because when i look back on my life without Him and my life with Him, i understand that i have been under Grace because He has been with me from the first day of my life.

Because when we are lost or confused, we can not even say the Lord Jesus name. Only if we are in the Holy Spirit can we say that.

1 Corinthians 12:3

At this stage i am also comforted since He has been so gracious to me. I want to believe that He is just as gracious with everyone else. When we can not say Jesus Christ from our mouths if we are not in the Holy Spirit. So i hear people say Jesus Christ with their mouths, is not it a confession in a way? Therefore, i attribute these people to the Lord. And He saves them to Himself after His will, i'm moving on. Hallelujah the Lord is near. Acts 8-9 Chapter. God bless us in Jesus Christ.

Hi Ruth, I believe it means water baptism. Water baptism is mentioned many times in the New Testament and is both physical and symbolic. If it wasn't important then Jesus would never have mentioned it and He wouldn't have baptized nor been baptized Himself, nor talked so much about it. But when I read it with an open mind and with no regard to denominational influence, it's obvious to me that at bare minimum this act of obedience is extremely important. The verses below are quite compelling. Beware of anyone who tries to sway you away from obeying or following Jesus. We can best avoid false teaching if we read God's Word and pray for wisdom and understanding. Link

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

John 14:15 - "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

God bless

Hi, Ruth,

I just read that verse. John 3:27,

Baptism & HOLY Spirit is many's belief.

Water & Spirit also could just simply mean natural birth & spiritual. John 3:5-6,

John 3, if you read in context John 3:3, John 3:15-21,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hello Ruth, Nice to meet you here.

This verse has been the topic of many discussions on this site. My suggestion is for you to google the question and read from some reputable Christian sites say about this. These articles usually site 3 or 4 meanings for this verse. If you truly want to understand this verse about being born anew, I think it is important to discover what has been taught since the beginning of the church age up to now.

In my research, the early church fathers of the first few centuries interpreted this passage as referring to water baptism being the means of being born of water and the spirit. This view speaks of being cleansed from sin through repentance and of our sins being "washed" away (in the spiritual sense) by the waters of baptism, which indicates a total cleansing from sin and by being a new creation by the work of the Holy Spirit who regenerates us. The early church fathers viewed that being born anew by water and the spirit as concurring simultaneously in water baptism. This was the view of the church from the 1st century up to the times after the Reformation in the 1500's when various sects began to promulgate the other views you will find in your research and the in the replies to you question on this site.

I do not wish to promote my view on this here, so I won't. But I did want to the historical viewpoint from the church age and refer you to research further on this on various Christian sites. these sites give good explanations citing Scripture, which I think is always good.