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Obviously, with the Holy Spirit empowering us as a member of the Godhead that is the only way to cast out demons. That being said; several factors need to be present for this to occur; and for a person to remain free. As Christ said; when a wicked spirit is cast out and finds where it came from clean; it brings 7 spirits more wicked than itself. ( Matthew 12:38-39). This should be a warning not to think in our own efforts we can "clean house" as it were.
Therefore; we have several things that need to occur. First of all; the Lord works where and when He chooses. There is no limit to what He can do; but He chooses where and when to act. A Damascus road experience can occur; but usually when someone is determined to live in rebellion and deliberately worship the powers of darkness God often will leave them to hit rock bottom; and for Satan to rend them so that they realize that they indeed are slaves to the Devil rather than having any benefit to supernatural powers he offers. Repentance needs to be present for a deliverance to be effective; or clearly the person can have worse things happen later. The Word of God and those filled with the Spirit are often enough for someone to be delivered who are seeking it. Those who do this shouldn't be as the magicians and be lovers of money rather than a willing vessel for His Work. Prayer and deliverance surely is important in the right manner; and with the correct gospel. It is the power of sin to have a legal hold on someone that causes even believers to be compromised. We are all lost in sin; but Satan has no power over our eternal destiny. To be worthy of being His children is more important than the fact that demons are subject to Him ( Luke 10:20). The Holiness of God is abhorred by all fallen angels and demons who are permanently removed from His presence without hope of restoration. Truly God rules over all of His Creation and His authority and power are unequalled. Agape. Rich P
Yes, the power comes through the Holy Spirit in Jesus' name, Evil spirits are not something one who has not the Holy Spirit should deal with. They can do horrific mental and physical harm. We see in Matthew Jesus gave the power to the disciples against them. We also see in Acts 19:13-16 what can happen and even worse to those who are not strong in their faith and have not the Holy Spirit. Believe me, it is something you do not want to deal with.
I believe that it is God alone who casts out demons. For believers, it is in Jesus' name that demons are cast out not by our efforts or personal faith. In Luke 1:1-2 Jesus gave his disciples power and authority to cast out demons and cure diseases when He sent out the 12 to preach the kingdom.
When Jesus sent out the 70 disciples in Luke 10 they returned to Jesus and rejoiced, saying. "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name". (verse 17). I suggest reading this chapter. In verse 19-20 Jesus gives the disciple the authority to trample the enemy, but goes on to say "Nevertheless do not rejoice in tis, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven."
It is certainly a praiseworthy event when someone is released from demonic control or healed from a disease because the person delivered has been set free and now enjoys relief and blessing from God. But Jesus says that it is more important and blessed to be heaven bound than to have this authority to cast out demons or heal the sick. The proclamation of the gospel and the reception of the gospel are higher things, but certainly relieving a person of demonic possession, influence, and oppression or healing someone who is ill are worthy things to do in Jesus' name. They bring glory to Him and also provide an avenue for the gospel to reach these people and for them to respond positively to it for their salvation.
Therefore; we have several things that need to occur. First of all; the Lord works where and when He chooses. There is no limit to what He can do; but He chooses where and when to act. A Damascus road experience can occur; but usually when someone is determined to live in rebellion and deliberately worship the powers of darkness God often will leave them to hit rock bottom; and for Satan to rend them so that they realize that they indeed are slaves to the Devil rather than having any benefit to supernatural powers he offers. Repentance needs to be present for a deliverance to be effective; or clearly the person can have worse things happen later. The Word of God and those filled with the Spirit are often enough for someone to be delivered who are seeking it. Those who do this shouldn't be as the magicians and be lovers of money rather than a willing vessel for His Work. Prayer and deliverance surely is important in the right manner; and with the correct gospel. It is the power of sin to have a legal hold on someone that causes even believers to be compromised. We are all lost in sin; but Satan has no power over our eternal destiny. To be worthy of being His children is more important than the fact that demons are subject to Him ( Luke 10:20). The Holiness of God is abhorred by all fallen angels and demons who are permanently removed from His presence without hope of restoration. Truly God rules over all of His Creation and His authority and power are unequalled. Agape. Rich P
Yes, the power comes through the Holy Spirit in Jesus' name, Evil spirits are not something one who has not the Holy Spirit should deal with. They can do horrific mental and physical harm. We see in Matthew Jesus gave the power to the disciples against them. We also see in Acts 19:13-16 what can happen and even worse to those who are not strong in their faith and have not the Holy Spirit. Believe me, it is something you do not want to deal with.
God bless,
RLW
I believe that it is God alone who casts out demons. For believers, it is in Jesus' name that demons are cast out not by our efforts or personal faith. In Luke 1:1-2 Jesus gave his disciples power and authority to cast out demons and cure diseases when He sent out the 12 to preach the kingdom.
When Jesus sent out the 70 disciples in Luke 10 they returned to Jesus and rejoiced, saying. "Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name". (verse 17). I suggest reading this chapter. In verse 19-20 Jesus gives the disciple the authority to trample the enemy, but goes on to say "Nevertheless do not rejoice in tis, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven."
It is certainly a praiseworthy event when someone is released from demonic control or healed from a disease because the person delivered has been set free and now enjoys relief and blessing from God. But Jesus says that it is more important and blessed to be heaven bound than to have this authority to cast out demons or heal the sick. The proclamation of the gospel and the reception of the gospel are higher things, but certainly relieving a person of demonic possession, influence, and oppression or healing someone who is ill are worthy things to do in Jesus' name. They bring glory to Him and also provide an avenue for the gospel to reach these people and for them to respond positively to it for their salvation.
Matthew 10:1, Matthew 10:8,
Mark 16:9,
Matthew 17:16-21, Mark 6:1-13, Mark 9:16-29,
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