Bible Discussion Thread

is Melchisedic is Jesus christ in Old testment . When we see in Bible Melchisedic doent have of Preshood Geneologly. can you please give us your opinion

You asked me to give my opinion, but before I did that I wanted to lay out what an opinion on this topic should be based on. Regardless of what conclusion I reach, you cannot base your opinion on that. You have to be convinced based on scripture more than anything I or anyone else says.

Now my opinion is that Melchisedek is a preincarnate appearance of Christ and that what the author of Hebrew attributes to Melchisedek are derived from Christ's actual preincarnate attributes. The appearance of Melchisedek is nonetheless presented convincingly as a man in the original account, as we should be convinced Christ's preincarnate appearances would not preclude Him from His incarnate appearance which makes Him our sympathetic High Priest.

The alternative interpretation that the author of Hebrews is taking advantage of an absence of information about Melchisedek to build an entire theology of Christ's High Priesthood around undermines his entire case. If you can falsely attribute Christ's attributes to a mere man that meets none of those qualifications to establish that Christ's High Priesthood and the nature of it predates the Levitical Priesthood and the inadequate nature of it, how have you proven anything other than that you may be a liar?

If Melchisedek was in reality just like the Levites that were born, lived and died and his nature in no way actually differed from theirs other than the point in time he arrived, the case made in the Book of Hebrews falls. Without the resurrection, had Christ merely become incarnate at a point in time and died on a cross, the entire Gospel falls.

Anyway that is my view.

God Bless you, If anyone ask any question it deosnt mean that they asked wicked manner , if i or someone asking some clarification means they want to know the truth with bible reference. Anyhow God bless you abudantly.

Regards,

Prasanth Konde

I am sorry for the way I posted the question in my post. It should not have been posed as an accusatory "If you" question, as though my intent was to accuse you or the asker of the original question specifically. I should have at least said it as an "If I" or "if anyone" question instead. I agree with James that not many of us should be teachers and that I stumble in many ways in what I say. That is why I separated my opinion of the text given in my previous post from the original post I wrote that tries to lay out what the Bible actually says and how it is generally understood with what I hope was minimal commentary of my own.

In any event, I should have tried to make it even clearer that it is the author of the Book of Hebrews I would really be questioning for laying out such an extensive doctrine that largely appears to rest on Melchisedek having all of the characteristics he described, if in fact he knew or believed Melchisedek in reality was a man that was no different from the levitical priests who had none of Christ's preincarnate characteristics. If that was what he actually did, many if not most of his conclusions can be rejected as being based on a faulty premise or even worse an intentionally deceptive premise.

Ultimately I conclude the doctrine laid out by the author of Hebrews is actually based on his firm belief that Melchisedek is a preincarnate appearance of Christ, and the characteristics he attributes to Melchisedek as a result are actually true. The conclusions he reaches based on those characteristics are founded on a true premise in that event. Taking that as my view, I can have full confidence in his doctrine.

Many think Melchisedec is a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. The passage in Genesis about Melchisadec taken just by itself does not give a clear indication of this:

Genesis 14:18-20 - 18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

The primary basis for thinking Melchizedek is Christ is a result of the way the author of the Book of Hebrews interprets this passage to show the superiority and primacy of Christ's High Priesthood over the Levitical High Priesthood in connection with the Messianic Psalm of David, Psalm 110, particularly Psalm 110:4

4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

The primary passages in Hebrews dealing with Christ's High Priesthood are:

Hebrew 3:1-10, Hebrews 4:14-16, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7.

Hebrews 7:1-3 is the most important passage to consider:

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

One view of vs 3 is that Melchisedek is a man who lived and died, but the author of Hebrews is using the mystery/absence of this info to liken him to Christ in His preincarnate state. The other is that this actually is Christ in His preincarnate state, but He appeared as a man like He ultimately did to reveal Himself as Son of God for us in order to become our High Priest.