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For me, God is this perfect love and therefore, Jesus is this perfect love. We are called to be imitators of Jesus, so we are to utilize the love of God poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, who is perfect love, too, by applying it to our relationships and interactions with others. Though God's love in us is perfect, our use of it will always be imperfect due to our sinful nature. As we walk in the Spirit, He sanctifies us bit by bit, and so our love becomes more perfected along the way in this life. As long as we exist on this earth, we will have our sinful nature affecting all of our "good" actions somewhat, even though our desire and intention is to do what is right. (See Rom. 7)
It will be in the next life that our sinful nature will be removed from us and we will be perfected. Then we will no longer sin and will rejoice in all that is good and right. We will be glorified and therefore be as God intended us to finally become. This state is higher than what Adam and Eve had in Eden prior to sinning. It is the culmination of the plan of the ages begun in the beginning. (See Phil. 3:20-21)
1 Cor. 2:7 says "But we speak of the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, (note that this plan was for our glory) and the chapter goes on to say, "Eye has not seen, Nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for those who love Him." (verse 9) and then goes on to say (...but (we have) the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. (verse 12)
So, there is much that we know now and possess now because the Spirit lives in use and reveals the mystery of the ages to us from the Word that recounts the salvation we have in Jesus (that the world cannot know without the Spirit). Yet there is still more for us to come in eternity that we have yet to know.
Perfect love is love that has come to its completion. In other words, God's Spirit in us gives us perfect love. 1 John Chapter 4, Verses 7-21 talks about the completion of the love of God.
1 John 4:7 says let us love one another. We are to love our brothers and sisters in Christ. But how do we do that unless God's Spirit in us gives us the capacity to do so? It's interesting that what we call the two greatest commandments are not even written in command form in the Greek text.
When it says "let us," in the King James, that's not a command. That is Subjunctive Mood. We will be loving one another. Why? Because God's Spirit in us gives us the capacity to love. It's a statement of fact, not a command. We cannot produce agape love, only God can. It's His Spirit that causes us to love. That's what it means to have perfect love, for God is love.
We see the character of God's love in 1 John 4:9-10. God sent His Son to be a propitiation for our sins. He met all the requirements that God has for us for the punishment and penalty for our sins. That's love!
Verse 11 tells me that God loved me so much that He sent His Son to die for me. I am indebted to my brothers and sisters in Christ to function and walk in the love of God. In Verse 16, he's making the statement because God is love. Therefore if He dwells in me, then I have perfect love in my spirit.
Verse 18 says there is no fear in love; but perfect love, that is, love brought to completion, casts out fear: because fear has torment. He that fears is not made perfect, or complete in love.
He's talking about the motive for obeying God. Some people obey God because they are afraid. Those who have the Spirit of God, and have matured and understand about the love of God, they do things because they love Him.
Jesus said in John 14:15 if you love me, you will keep my commandments. When we experience God's love, His Spirit causes us to love. Perfect love is brought to its completion by receiving Christ.
Dear "Sunshine", Corintihans 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
God bless us all withe everlasting Love in Christ.
Jesse and others have given you good answers.
For me, God is this perfect love and therefore, Jesus is this perfect love. We are called to be imitators of Jesus, so we are to utilize the love of God poured into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, who is perfect love, too, by applying it to our relationships and interactions with others. Though God's love in us is perfect, our use of it will always be imperfect due to our sinful nature. As we walk in the Spirit, He sanctifies us bit by bit, and so our love becomes more perfected along the way in this life. As long as we exist on this earth, we will have our sinful nature affecting all of our "good" actions somewhat, even though our desire and intention is to do what is right. (See Rom. 7)
It will be in the next life that our sinful nature will be removed from us and we will be perfected. Then we will no longer sin and will rejoice in all that is good and right. We will be glorified and therefore be as God intended us to finally become. This state is higher than what Adam and Eve had in Eden prior to sinning. It is the culmination of the plan of the ages begun in the beginning. (See Phil. 3:20-21)
1 Cor. 2:7 says "But we speak of the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, (note that this plan was for our glory) and the chapter goes on to say, "Eye has not seen, Nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for those who love Him." (verse 9) and then goes on to say (...but (we have) the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. (verse 12)
So, there is much that we know now and possess now because the Spirit lives in use and reveals the mystery of the ages to us from the Word that recounts the salvation we have in Jesus (that the world cannot know without the Spirit). Yet there is still more for us to come in eternity that we have yet to know.
Perfect love is love that has come to its completion. In other words, God's Spirit in us gives us perfect love. 1 John Chapter 4, Verses 7-21 talks about the completion of the love of God.
1 John 4:7 says let us love one another. We are to love our brothers and sisters in Christ. But how do we do that unless God's Spirit in us gives us the capacity to do so? It's interesting that what we call the two greatest commandments are not even written in command form in the Greek text.
When it says "let us," in the King James, that's not a command. That is Subjunctive Mood. We will be loving one another. Why? Because God's Spirit in us gives us the capacity to love. It's a statement of fact, not a command. We cannot produce agape love, only God can. It's His Spirit that causes us to love. That's what it means to have perfect love, for God is love.
We see the character of God's love in 1 John 4:9-10. God sent His Son to be a propitiation for our sins. He met all the requirements that God has for us for the punishment and penalty for our sins. That's love!
Verse 11 tells me that God loved me so much that He sent His Son to die for me. I am indebted to my brothers and sisters in Christ to function and walk in the love of God. In Verse 16, he's making the statement because God is love. Therefore if He dwells in me, then I have perfect love in my spirit.
Verse 18 says there is no fear in love; but perfect love, that is, love brought to completion, casts out fear: because fear has torment. He that fears is not made perfect, or complete in love.
He's talking about the motive for obeying God. Some people obey God because they are afraid. Those who have the Spirit of God, and have matured and understand about the love of God, they do things because they love Him.
Jesus said in John 14:15 if you love me, you will keep my commandments. When we experience God's love, His Spirit causes us to love. Perfect love is brought to its completion by receiving Christ.
Well spoken.
God bless.
cobblestoneroadministry (dot) org
Thorough response to your question.
Jesus is perfect love in all ways. If we were able to reflect Jesus in our love it could be near perfect.
2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
God bless us all withe everlasting Love in Christ.
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