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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 186455

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  • RAVINA on 1 John 2 - 2 years ago
    What is jesus to you when you sin
  • Jc445799 - In Reply on 1 John 2 - 2 years ago
    Forgiving merciful Savior
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 John 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi again Ravina.

    To put it in context with the verse you supplied and to be direct.

    I begin with "Sin" separates us from God.

    Jesus is to you, me and the WHOLE world the propitiation for our sins. 1 John 2:2.

    Here's the definition for Propitiation.

    Greek:

    Transliteration: hilasmos

    Pronunciation: hil-as-mos'

    Definition: atonement that is (concretely) an expiator: - propitiation.

    KJV Usage: propitiation.

    To expiate is to make amends or reparation for; atone for: expiate one's sins by acts of penance. To make amends; atone.

    "The penalty of sin has been paid"

    Here's how John the baptist describes him.

    The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. John 1:29.

    Now, to put my first reply in harmony with this post,

    Though Jesus is our propitiation for our sins, we must accept him and believe this good news.

    "The Gospel".

    1 Corinthians 15:3-4.

    Romans 10:9-10. ect...

    If we reject this good news here's our fate.

    Hebrews 10:26-27. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

    But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

    When we have been truly born again we're given the a new nature and power over sin.

    Romans 6:20-22. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

    What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.

    But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • GiGi - In Reply on 1 John 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi Ravina,

    Jesus is with me in all things in my life, in all my thoughts, in all my words, in all my actions and all of my circumstances. ( Hebrews 4:13) So, when I sin, He is with me when I sin and is grieved by it, as I should be also, if the Holy Spirit has regenerated me, given me the faith to believe and be converted and is indwelling me to sanctify me and transform me to become more and more Like Jesus, who never sinned. Therefore, when I sin, I desire and hope that I would be grieved and convicted of it quickly. and then I can turn to Jesus and confess my sin to Him and know that He is faithful and just to forgive me. ( 1 John 1:9) Jesus has compassion for me because bring God Incarnated as a human, understands our weaknesses, having been temped in all points as we are, yet He did not give in to sin. ( Hebrews 4:14-16) I can be assured that Jesus is not a God that is far away, but nearer than the closest friend I could ever have. I can trust Him to love me though I am a sinner, but His life and work of salvation has opened the way for me to have become a child of God Our Father in heaven. I can be confident that I remain God's child throughout this earthly life and forever in eternity. I can know for sure that nothing can separate me from God's love for me because Jesus is my Savior forever and in Him we have peace with God.

    Ravina, I hope that you will tell us what Jesus is to you when you sin, as well. I am sure that you have nothing but good things to say about Him, since He is perfect in every way. God bless you today.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 John 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi Ravina.

    I believe you are referring to

    1 John 2:2 And he is the PROPITIATION for our sins: and not for our's only, BUT ALSO FOR THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.

    Christ is an expiator. our atonement.

    This is made available but we must be careful not to deceive ourselves.

    If one have been truly born again he/she has been transformed and habitual sin not present in their life.

    I believe we should also consider

    Romans 6:1-11. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

    God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

    Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

    Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

    Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

    For he that is dead is freed from sin.

    Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

    Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

    For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.

    Likewise "RECKON" ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    I believe Paul is telling us to Recognize that we are dead to sin!

    and it shouldn't have a hold on you.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.



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