Bible Discussion Thread

I want to know the difference between the word "alway" and "always". Bible dictionaries state that "alway" is no longer used so it essentially means the same as "always". But I know there must have been a good reason for the KJV translators to originally use the word "alway" instead of "always" in the first place. I believe there are 23 instances in the Bible where "alway" is used. In Phil 4:4 does alway mean to rejoice at the beginning and at the end of a trial - during the course of this trial you won't rejoice because of the pain or suffering but because grace sustains you, you will rejoice at the completion of the trial. You rejoice during the trial because grace is sustaining you but you don't rejoice because your are sick, injured, etc. Am I right?

To always rejoice means you rejoice at every thing that is happening all the time. ??

Thank you...I'm teaching a class and the use of this word will need to be addressed.

Sincerely...all help appreciated...Debbie Eads

The Greek word "PANTOTE" that is translated in English as alway/always here has the meaning "at any time, at all circumstances".

Of course you don't feel happy when you are ill or hurt or when you loose a person you love.It is impossible to rejoice 24 hours a day, 30 days a month, 12 months a year and so on. The verse doesn't have this meaning As i see it it has the meaning to always trust God snd have faith in Him that no matter what problems come into your life He will never let you down. And even if He decides for His own good reasons to not move away a problem you must still trust Him because His purpose is to get us into His kingdom in Heavens. His grace is on us and sustains us when we face difficult situations.

And His Spirit gives us joy. The fruit of the Spirit is love, JOY, peace... Galatians 5:22. So it is a necessity for God's childrey to ask for and get baptised in the Spirit of God. And get filled with the Holly Spirit when praying so to have God's power available when needed.

My take on alway verse always, is alway means now, before, and in the future. Always could be referring to works like All ways.

Paul in Hebrews words uses the word let slip instead of falling away, slip is different than falling way. It is the little things in scripture that have the most meaning. Especially as you say, during and in the time of temptation.

Steadfastness while in temptation is essential, looking only unto Him!

Beware of those of the concision! Beware vs. in other translation "watch out".

Beware means be aware, verses watch out meaning works again! Watching.

The Holy Spirit will do the being aware for you ! Remember that the Holy Ghost moves and moves within you, keep your eyes on the prize, the race before you , now, and before, and "ALWAY".

In Christ, Fred

Rejoice is English translated, from Hebrew & Greek meanings research indicates= "cheer up, make glad", "make joy", "thrive", "to be well" "to gladden ",

It also means to "Hail" HIM meaning "to greet with enthusiastic approval", "salute", " acclimation of great success "

Understanding these meanings, we can take comfort & even joy in knowing HIS accomplishments, we can rejoice in all things. How would we react if HE arrives in the room? I imagine Jesus walking into a room in the flesh, wouldn't we "rejoice"? Wouldn't we salute Him, cheer or clap? Yes for sure!!! We would jump out of our seats rejoicing! Better than any sporting event, star etc.

We know there's power when Jesus was around & HE makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25, Romans 8:27,

It says Matthew 18:20, HE is with us, John 16:23, John 14:14, Matthew 10:26-32,

When we look at the history of GOD's miracles, deliverances, love & provisions. We can "make glad" & salute HIM, rejoicing in THE LORD, what HE has done, what HE will do, Who HE is

Hopefully this is helpful & encouraging

I would drop to my knees and cry like there was no tomorrow.

I would keep my face buried in the floor of the earth with such humiliation of the world and what we are and what they did to him. I am crying now. I would not be able to look up at The Face Of The Lamb As He was,(slain). Him Knowing and sacrificing Himself for my sins yesterday and that day, I out of such humility, would not feel worthy to look upon Him. I so Love LJesus , My Lord, My God, My King, My only salvation.

Looking at Jesus and knowing what pure evil that He took on from the beginning to the end of the world. Really think about that.

Just not being crucified, they, His own People denied Him and acted and watched and spit and called him vile, filthy names, and beat and tortured Him so viscously, beyond recognition, like no other man in the world. He took all that and Jesus could have bailed out. And His Father in Heaven had to watch and could have ended the vile abuse at any time but did not. "For God So Loved The World". Him ransomed 4 us.

Nether Jesus or His Heavenly Father bailed on the world. They should of.

The world is more vile than ever.

I Have committed almost every sin in the Scriptures. But one I have not. I have not Denied My Father in Heaven nor Jesus, The Selfless Lamb.

This kills my heart! For my sins and the sins committed against then and to Him today. I am not worthy. The world is not worthy.

But I want to believe that Jesus would lift my chin and just say with out words, that I am His and He gets Me as He created me. He Knows i love Him. I am seeking His Heart today.

But each day He sees and knows that i seek His Heart like a little child. " I know your heart, I created it. When you cried out, why did I give you that big heart and big shoulders and why you suffered from so

Many and so much , from a little one on,

"Because, you gave those gifts to all." I will see you soon and Keep seeking my Heart. I still Love You." I pray He says.

Deborah

Dear Deborah , it might be a good idea for you to get a concordance , Strongs Exhaustive is fab , you are going to come across lots of old English words in the Bible as the KJV was compiled and published in the 1600's , the English language has changed quite a bit since then . Most of the words you should be able to figure out for yourself based on the context but a concordance is very helpful . May God bless your efforts .

In the case of Phillipians 4:4 the word translated alway is Greek 104 aei; ever, unceasingly.

Other verses that use this Greek word translated "alway" are:

2 Cor 4:11

2 Cor 6:10

Col 4:6

1 Thes 2:16

2 Thes 2:13

Tit 1:12

Heb 3:10

This Greek word is translated "always" in these verses:

Acts 7:51

1 Pet 3:15

2 Pet 1:12

I hope this helps.

Always means at all times; ever; perpetually; throughout all time; continually when used as an adverb.

Alway is an archaic word that means all along; for all time, perpetually when used as an adverb.

There are several Hebrew and Greek words that are sometimes translated alway and other times translated always in the KJV. The Strong's Concordance dictionary number for each word, its transliteration, definition and the number of times that word is translated either alway or always are given below.

Hebrew

3117 yom; day - alway (4), always (4)

5331 netsach; eminence, perpetuity, strength, victory, enduring, everlastingness - alway (1), always (2)

5769 olam; long duration, antiquity, futurity - alway (2), always (3)

6256 eth; time - alway (0), always (2)

8548 tamid, continuity - alway (4), always (6)

Greek

104 aei; ever, unceasingly - alway (8), always (3)

1275 diaparatribe; always, continually - alway (2), always (3)

1539 hekastote; each time, always - alway (0), always (2)

3842 pantote; at a times - alway (1), always (29)

3956 pas; all, every - alway (1), always (4)

So if you really want to understand any subtle differences in the meanings of the words "alway" and "always" that actually may have been intended by the original author for any given verse you really need a Strong's Concordance with a Hebrew and Greek dictionary.

Deborah, no translation from one language to another is perfect. It matters not whether it is alway are always, we know from other scriptures through God's Word that thanksgiving and praise to God should be unending, in the fire or out of the fire.

Isaiah 24:15 Wherefore glorify ye the Lord in the fires ......

Romans 8:28 For we know that all things (even evil) work together for GOOD to them that love God, to them WHO ARE THE CALLED according to HIS PURPOSE.

GBU