Bible Discussion Thread

If a person has been married but divorced but now married in an adulterous marriage but comes to being a chrysoberyl they have to divorce the new present husband

Hello Jacquelyn . Here r a couple of scripture references that may or may not help u : Matt Ch 19 V 1-12 . The desire between a man and a woman is totally natural . I have seen people drive them selves crazy over this problem of marriage , divorce and re marriage . I have seen people drive them selves crazy because they have tried to fight against their own natural desires . I don't think that I , as a happily married man , should ever tell anyone , Christian or not , that they can't get married and b happy as I am . It's not my place to tell another human : no , u have to stay single for the rest of your life . I have lived alone , I didnt mind it but I'm a much happier person now I'm married . To condemn another person to a life of loneliness , deny them the ability to give and receive love , that's not my place . I have total admiration for those who do deny themselves marriage , I'm not so strong . And I'm confident that I don't have to b a single celibate person to b a Christian .

What I think, or what you think will not matter in the judgement but what sayeth the Lord. I would rather see anyone in church serving the Lord teaching others the truth (Jesus teachings) than denying him. The Lord can & will make a way if we are willing to do his will not ours.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Both my husband and myself had relationships with others before we were saved . He got married and divorced before he was saved , his wife commited adultery several times . I never married before I was saved . When we met each other we were in love in less than a week and have been married for over twenty years now . I don't believe that there is a hard and fast law about this . I know others will disagree and that's ok . I believe that if my husband and I had met when we were young we wouldn't have liked each other much . People change all the time , our life experiences change us , hopefully for the better . I'm not who I was twenty or even ten years ago . God is teaching us things all the time , moulding us into who He wants us to be . He gives us what we need when He knows we need it , I think this is true of our relationships also . He brings into our lives the people that we need or that need us exactly when the time is right . Love is God's most awesome gift . If it knocks on your door don't ignore it . Pray about it , take your time ,but don't slam the door immediately .

Hi Jacquelyn.

I tend to concur with Richard here. It is wise for anyone who is divorced to really learn what Jesus taught about this matter. If He says that if one divorces his wife and marries another or if one marries a divorced women, this marriage causes the spouses to commit adultery. I don't believe like many who say, well maybe the first sexual relations are adultery, but then God forgives and so the couple can continue being married. I believe that it is a continuous adulterous relationship, unless the prior marriage ended because the other spouse committed adultery. I do think that those who truly want to follow Jesus' words would not remarry or marry someone who was divorced before. And I think that those who have remarried against Jesus' words, should separate and remain unmarried. It become more complicated when children are involved from the second marriage.

As Richard said, we don't say to a their or murderer that their first theft or murder was sinful, but they are forgiven and subsequent thefts or murders are no longer sinful, so why do we say this to those who remarry? It is a sticky subject and much compromise has occurred among believers and in churches and their pastors who counsel people to remarry and perform re-marriages.

I am a married person, so I do not know what it is like to be a Christian and be divorced. But I do think that Jesus' words are what we should follow and advise others to do. We are in a sad state in today's world.

Not sure what Chrysoberyl a gemstone has to do with the question. 99 out of 100 probably would say that once the deed is done; so to speak and the new marriage consummated; that they should remain together. That is not how I see scripture; however. All I can say is how I had in my own personal life reject a new relationship before it got to that point; as to my understanding on the matter. Others had said to me "pray about it; do whatever the Lord seems to show you" or something to that effect. Even the church I attend now has a rare stance in not supporting remarriage among a believer (although I would say being a Christian or not doesn't matter in that situation). However no one wants to dogmatically state that a person should leave their partner after marriage. I won't name names here but this is prevalent among well know preachers who would not hold to that logic should say someone were to continue in theft; drunkeness or some other vice. The question is whether a person is in a CONTINUAL state of adultery; which it seems clear to me in scripture. The exception clause probably refers to Jewish espousal which was to be held at the same level as an actual marriage so that anyone having relations that were engaged could also be put to death. I suggest studying covenants here-and in this case; you may be the only voice who will have the guts to tell the truth. I will also say that if the FIRST marriage was illegitimate: i.e. not the first while another spouse is alive or involved someone previously married that would be the only other reason other than the death of a former spouse to stay in such a relationship. Obviously; you want to see these people come to faith if they aren't at present; and you should see if they truly are seeking answers or the Spirit leads you to confront them. There are numerous testimonies online; and one good book on the subject is Marriage and Divorce: The Trojan Horse and David Pawson sermons. Agape.