Bible Discussion Thread

Was having a conversation with a Christian friend of mine, who was so appalled by what was happening in our world. I had to remind my friend, that we "desire a better country, that is, an heavenly".

If the people of this world want to destroy this beautiful planet earth with their sin, and forget God!?

Well, I'll let them.

AS FOR ME AND MY HOUSE

I will serve the LORD!

Sometimes I think Christians get to involved in the things of this world, and forget what Jesus said "I am NOT of the world" John 17:16-26

It seems to me that political views are increasingly being expressed in "Kill or be killed" terms. Those were the same terms Jesus faced when he came. Roman rule was increasingly seen by most Jews as an existential threat that the Messiah had to destroy. However, Jesus solution was not to kill, but to be killed. I am glad it was, since there would be no salvation or eternal life for any of us if He had chosen to kill instead of to be killed. But the nation of Israel was destroyed when false Messiah's increasingly radicalized the Jews away from the cross into political rebellion.

Matthew 10:38-39

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Matthew 16:24-25

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If anymanwill come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

This concept is so important that Jesus said these nearly identical words at least twice. When Jesus said this the disciples had no idea what He really meant to the point that Peter later even tried to rebuke Jesus over it. However, by the time these words were written in Matthew's Gospel the Holy Spirit had been given and the disciples understanding had been so changed that virtually all of the Apostles were violently killed for Christ. Jesus calls us to follow Him all the way and He was always up front that He demands our willingness to submit to our own deaths for His sake like He willingly submitted to His death for our sake. He overcame the world and so must we.

So count the cost and follow Him. And if anyone says it is either us or them to try to scare us or anger us over anything in this world to tempt us away from Christ's true calling of the cross, Christ has shown us the response we must give them. "Get behind me Satan

Dear "RichFairhurst", i read your post, and got inspired :) In peace i say: It mayby is how Christians live today who is the big question here: Are we in the great apostasy? Too many people think they are on the right path, but few are so, said Jesus Himself! Matthew 22:14

Then i better understand that God is patient with us and the days are made for us Christians, all this comes from God we know! He wants everyone who is predestined to come to His Rest. 1 Timothy 2:3-4

Oh Good God help us and find the way! We are so terribly slow in perception and body that we divide the road and go wrong without knowing it! Lord, use Your time! Thank You for Your patience that can not be measured by anyone! God bless us all for repentance from dead works to faith in the Counsel of the Living God. He who Is.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Amen.

Well stated Adrian.

God bless.