Bible Discussion Thread

God has always been and will forever after the end be. His earthly human blood was shed, not Him who is spirit and one with Jesus. The bloodshed is also that of billions upon billions both long gone in days o old, the here and now, and in the end but only as God says it will be. No one knows their day or hour but God, not even the angels know. And as far as God's name, only He knows it, and man can only guess and assume it is as they see it to be. God made all things including the angels. So don't make a mistake about God and Jesus being one the same. It says this throughout the Bible. The word Elohim because God came to earth as Jesus to walk amongst His people - His creations, called man. I am interpreting the entire book of Revelation and will publish it when I'm done. For now, my comment is on "the word of God," who was, is, and always will be; there is no such thing as a trinity, meaning three, for God is all; AND ONE THE SAME, NOT THREE different entities as most think He is. This word Trinity is not in any Bible unless one of the pagan ones. It was made up, yet many of you speak of the father, the son, and the holy spirit as being separate, and not one the same. Wake up people.! It states clearly in even the orthodox bible, the name of God what no one knows but Him - God, himself. Ho logos tou Theou, or "the Logos of God." The plural is defined as more than one, but this greek tells that God is one, not three for He is the word, was manifest into the son Jesus, then went back to heaven in spirit, and will return once again as the living God in the flesh, Jesus, is His name, and He is Lord of lords, and King of kings, our only creator telling the angels and all of us who He is, and what He will do, to rule for a thousand years on the new earth and in the new heavenly kingdom that only He will once again create, and place all of us who are His children back upon the new earth, and heaven will be reserved for the angels and saints. Amen.!

Gbu Edward...But you do greatly err...As Abraham Isaac and Jacob was three distinct beings. but the one 1 singular Father of Israel...That was multiplied as the Sands of the Seas in multitude....God asked Abraham can you count the Stars of Heaven so shall thy Seed Be...And Abraham means father of a multitude...He was a type of God Almighty that wanted a posterity and Jesus was his 1st born of MANY Brethren...God Almighty swore by his very self when he made that Promise of multiplication of Christ...Thus its God the Father that is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven..Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the WORD came it made them Gods..impling many as the stars of Heaven, And that which is born of the spirt is spirit which is the H.G the Children of Promise...Impling multiplication of God in the Spritual realm....Not only was Jesus God the son but his seed is the very seed of God...Thats y he is saying to whom His Word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods...And Jesus says his words cannot return unto him void...Which is the contents of the book in the Fathers right hand...The WORDS OF LIFE.

....Now unto Abraham and his seed were the Promises made... Gal 3 : 16 kjv..But he said not seeds plural ( natural ISRAEL ) But unto 1 seed which is Christ the Israel of God....Thus its Christ that is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven...And that y the Sower of the good seed wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts...Which is the living Word that New Covenant...I will know them ALL which is an intimacy with us HUMANITY resulting in a birth of Christ in us ..And Hebrews 1 : 8...But unto the SON he says thy Throne O GOD IS FOREVER AND EVER..A Sceptre of Righteousness is the Sceptre of thy KiNGDOM..Thus the H.G. which is the Manchild that Child of Promise Emanuel will rule ALL THE WORLD...Which is the spirit of truth that Jesus said was gonna reprove this WORLD of Sin and Righteousness and Judgement..OOH IMANUEL the stretching out of thy wings will fill th whole World.

I believe with all of my heart that Abraham Issac and Jacob were a metaphor for the KiNGDOM of God ...As the nation of Israel came out of the Abrahamic Trinity...And they were Father Son and GRANSON....that became as the sands of the seas...That cannot be numbered for multitude..Which is an allegory for an Israel of God...That was the great Promise that Christ wd be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven..impling an ISRAEL of God...The great Promise was only made to Abraham Isaac and Jacob...implng that an Israel of God wd come out of God Almighty and his Son Christ JESUS...And IMMANUEL THE H.G. God with US...Remember that God Almighty offered up his only son Christ Jesus just like Abraham offered up his only Son Isaac...It was Jacob the Granson whos name was changed to Israel...Thus that 3 rd person the H.G. is the Israel of God...The grandchildren....That are gonna be as the stars of Heaven in multitude when the book is opened releasing the seeds of the sower and to whom the word came it made them Gods, spirits as the Israel of God are spirits that are gonna be born in us which is the H.G. Thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats the fulfilment of Isaiah 49 a heavenly Israel is coming

....God cd not tell Moses that his name was Abraham Isaac and Jacob if Abraham Isaac and Jacob were not an earthly expression of the Heavenly Kingdom...Don'cha see that Abraham had to be multiplied as the sands of the seas...That tells us that God Almighty is gonna be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven...God swore by his very self when he made that great Promise of multiplication...On the day of Pentecost Jesus said behold i send the Promise of MY FATHER UP ON YOU..Which was baptism of the H.G. the multiplcation of Jesus in Humanity ...The beginning of an Israel of God which was the children of Promise...Thats y the Sower has to go forth and sow his precious seed in US...Without this Abrahamic Trinity there cd neva have been a nation of Israel...r the Kingdom

Hello Edward,

Chris has given a good explanation of the doctrine of the Godhead (Trinity). I wish to add the following:

The Trinitarian nature of God is shown at Jesus' baptism very clearly. the Father spoke in an audible voice heard by others, not just Jesus, The Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus like a dove and rested upon Jesus, the Father claimed that Jesus is His beloved Son.

John chapter 1 speaks of the Word being with God and being God (Speaking of Jesus as the eternal Word) through whom all things were created.

There are many other Scripture references.

The Trinitarian teaching says that there is only one God, who, in his essential nature exists in three distinct Persons, but all share the one essential divine nature.

Some people adhere to a "Oneness" error that states that God is one and He reveals Himself in different modalities to mankind: sometimes as the Father, sometimes as Jesus, and sometimes as the Holy Spirit; but these are not three distinct persons. This historically has been known as Modalism and has been considered heresy across the centuries. If this doctrine was true, then all of God died on the cross. But Jesus cried out to His Father on the cross and God can never cease to exist.

Jesus, as fully God (the Son, the Word) and fully human. He, through his death, was reconciling us to God (the Father).

On the cross the wrath of God (the Father) was poured out on Jesus (God the Son and Son of Man). Jesus did not pour the wrath of God upon Himself, but His Father did.

Even though the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, the word "Godhead" appears in Romans 1:20 and Colossians 2:9.

At the Last Supper, Jesus prayed to the Father and told the disciples that He would ask the Father to send the Holy Spirit. speaking of these as separate Persons distinct from Himself.

I understand that people have differing ideas about this topic. However, I also know that all doctrines about God being a Trinity or not are not all correct, only one is.

Hello Edward. You wrote: "there is no such thing as a trinity, meaning three, for God is all", and "many of you speak of the father, the son, and the holy spirit as being separate, and not one the same."

To clarify, the trinitarian belief is not of three gods, but of one God seen in the Bible in three 'manifestations' of Himself. When we speak of the Father, Son & the Holy Spirit as separate, it's because that is how the Bible presents the Person & Activity of God. I cannot be clear from what you wrote, whether you believe that when Jesus was born in the flesh that God the Father was no longer in Heaven? Or, when the Holy Spirit came to indwell the believer in Jesus Christ, that God the Father left His Abode?

To quote what you also wrote: "He is the word, was manifest into the son Jesus, then went back to heaven in spirit, and will return once again as the living God in the flesh." Are you saying that Jesus, in His Ascension, returned to Heaven only in Spirit-form?

I won't comment further as I may not be understanding what you've presented. I'll look forward to your responses to my queries.