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  • Patty morgan - 2 years ago
    when we passaway do we go to heaven? then what it mean when Jesus said the dead in christ will rise first? please help
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Patty,

    Chris gave you a good explanation of what happens when we die.

    I want to add: what happens when the dead in Christ will rise first? This is the resurrection of the dead spoken of by Jesus and Paul

    John 6:40; 1 Corinthians Chapter 25; 1 Thessalonians 4:16

    When Jesus comes back, the bodies of those believers who have died will be resurrected as glorified human body like Jesus' resurrection body. The body of those who are alive at Jesus' coming will be instantly changed into a glorified human body like Jesus' resurrection body. But the order is, Jesus returns; the dead are bodily resurrected and united with their soul and spirit; those who are still alive will then be changed, as I stated.

    Jesus is fully God and fully man. He will be this way for all of eternity. He has a glorified human body in heaven that can be felt, fed, and other functions of His natural body, but not be corrupted by sin or the grave. His human body is immortal and will exist forever. Both natures (God and man) will forever reside in this body, having been united at His conception in Mary.

    Our resurrection bodies will be like Jesus' resurrection body in all ways, with the exception of not having an innate God nature like Jesus does, but we will having the indwelling Holy Spirit in us for all of eternity, whom unites us to Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit in an awesome, mysterious way.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Patty. When a believer (i.e. one who has placed his faith in Jesus Christ for salvation) passes away, his/her soul & spirit are received into Heaven immediately, while the body remains on Earth. Some believe that the soul/spirit remain on the Earth but generally they don't know where they reside.

    I share the following Scriptures in support: 2 Corinthians 5:6-8 (Paul is giving the distinction of where our spirits can only be: on Earth or in Heaven; if we're on Earth (home in the body) then we're not in Heaven. But if we're not in the body, then we must be "present with the Lord").

    Philippians 1:21-24 (Again, Paul was caught in a strait (a predicament): he was ready & willing to depart to Christ (i.e. his spirit), but if he remained on Earth then his ministry could continue to the Philippians & others. He longed to go, but also knew that at God's appointed time his departure would come).

    Examples of Stephen ( Acts 7:54-60). As he was being stoned & in his final breaths, he called upon Jesus to receive his spirit. At the Transfiguration ( Matthew 17:1-8), Jesus was transfigured (where we get the word, metamorphosis from the Greek): to change/transform in appearance; & with Jesus, Moses & Elijah appeared talking with Jesus - Moses & Elijah had long been dead, but have returned, not from the dead, but from Heaven.

    And John 11:21-27. Jesus talks with Martha about the death of her brother Lazarus. She believed in the general resurrection of all people at the appointed time, but Jesus tells her something she didn't know, of the believing dead & living: whether in death or in life, the believer never dies (spiritually) - the body might perish & decay, but Jesus Who is our Resurrection & Life, guarantees that the spirit will live on as the body will one day be raised incorruptible.

    "The dead in Christ shall rise first": speaks of the Rapture ('harpazo') of the Church when both the living & dead will be 'snatched away' from the Earth to meet Jesus in the air.



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