Bible Discussion Thread

What is Jesus's right as the son of man?

Ray,

Jesus had the right to be the first person to be "born again" (resurrected) as an example for us.

Jesus wasn't born again when He walked the earth, not with that fleshy body.

An amazing physical aspect of Jesus is His transfiguration, coming in full God mode to rule the world.

You said my interpretation is flawed when it comes to the topic of people going to hell and the Lake of Fire but yet I can cite numerous verses of people going to hell, Scriptures about people being cast into the Lake of Fire, what it takes to gain salvation (the gospel) and so forth. You really believe that someone could be a Satanist and practice rituals, hate God, and still go to heaven? Another instance, In Revelation, it says those that accept the mark of the beast will be cast into the Lake of Fire and leaves no second chance for them. I hope realize that it's impossible for God to lie, and God very clearly says people will go to hell. Jesus can't lie either or he'd be a sinner and we would all be doomed in that case. I notice you haven't provided even a single verse to validate Universalism. You asked about Muslims, and yes every Muslim who dies without accepting Jesus will certainly perish in the Lake of Fire. The only way to avoid the second death, as the Bible very clearly says, is to trust and believe in Jesus as our Savior. I sincerely hope you actually give yourself a fair chance on this because right now you're making a false idol of a god that isn't in the Bible. I hope you get saved and come to trust the Lord and go on to share the true gospel with others because at this point I think it's clear that's not the case.

Thank You Ben, for defending sound doctrine. We need that here and the reality of hell for the unbelieving, unrepentant is a grave matter that often gets set aside in favor of appealing to others rather than offending them into repentance.

Dear Ray

Adding to GiGi's comment below.

Jesus as a Son of Man (which simply means a man) had all the right to represant humanity on the cross. As a Son of God (which simply means God) He had no sins so death had no right to keep Him since death is the wage of sin (God's penalty to people for doing sins). That is why Father God ressurected Him. If Jesus hadn't been ressurected (which means that He had sins Himself) we couldn't have been saved.

GBU

Giannis,

This is one of the best sentences I've read in a while. Just a beautiful, mindful way to put it.

"He had no sins so death had no right to keep Him since death is the wage of sin"

As the perfect Son of man, Jesus had the right to enter heaven. As the Divine Son of God, He had the right to sit at the right hand of the Father. There are probably more that can be said on this topic. It will be interesting to hear them.

Satan was not human and still isn't. He's a created being.

Earth was created for humans.

Before Jesus came to earth, he had to lay aside his power in order to be born as human. (fully God and fully human) When he was born of Mary, he became the Son of Man. He did no miracles until Luke 4:18. He received the Anointing. ( Isaiah 61:1-3)

On the cross Jesus stripped Satan of the authority he stole from Adam and Eve when they sinned. Jesus came to get it back-and give it to all born again believers.

You might enjoy a video (youtube) by Charles Capps: "authority of the believer". We learn what Jesus gave each believer.

Mishael