Bible Discussion Thread

Brothern.

Beware of doctrines demons.

There are some that supposedly have a deeper understanding of the word of God that has crept in the church.

Strategically they converse with you, " Not to convert you but to use the platform you provide them to confuse the simple.

They stand in the way of salvation for those who seek Christ through his word.

ENCOURAGEMENT.

However God is aware of Satan's tares in the congregation, And he that the Lord calls WILL come to him!!

Jude 1:4. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Galatians 1:8-9. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2 John 1:10-11. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Encouragement!!

The gates of hell shall not prevail against the Church.

Matthew 16:18.

God bless.

Thanks Gigi.

I've heard it said recently that everyone will be refined by fire and make it in Gods heavenly kingdom whether they accepts Christ or not,

Here's what that looks like according to their Doctrine.

1) "An un repented sinner in the likes of Vladimir Putin doesn't needs Christ to enter Heaven".

What's the point of the commandment not to kill?

2) Vladimir Putin is going to have a baby Holy Ghost. REALLY?

I thought Jesus was going to present us as a chased virgin.

That means blameless!!

You can't be blameless without the blood of Christ!!

There's no salvation in this teaching.

All facets of the Bible is purposed to lead to salvation or anticipation of a savior coming or came.

What's the point in being a sacrificial Lamb if ALL die and live again to go to Heaven? By the blood of Christ what did we escape from?

This teaching is an offense to the cross and put the death of Christ to an open shame!

And it diminishes the love of God mentioned in John 3:16. because this teaching presents the crucifixion was useless when saying all will be saved anyway.

Hell fire represents a place of torment, Not refining.

John 14:6.

God bless.

Amen! Some of this doctrine seems to be exactly what is talked about in 2 Timothy 4:3-4. Even some pastors try to "modernize" the gospel assuming its going to be better received by society. It seems there's been a big push from somewhere recently trying to redefine who Jesus is, along with other parts of the gospel- "it doesn't really mean what it says, but means this..." it all reminds me of how the serpent first deceived people.

Thanks Brother Adam.

2 Timothy fits perfectly, Certain teachings derail the Gospel.

And this particular message renders the crucifixion as NOT an act of Love. No one is perfect in their Doctrine because of our ignorance, that's why we continue to grow until we come to a full knowledge of the truth. Ephesians 4:13.

But when one say he already have that full knowledge in these earthy bodies but yet their Doctrine don't line up with none of Gods word, so they spiritualize ALL of scripture.

I don't believe that's innocent ignorance. I believe that's demonic.

Because the result of their Doctrine makes clear scripture looks as if it was lies.

God bless.

Thanks S. Spencer.

With all of this in mind, I think that it is even more important for sound doctrine to be repeatedly spoken on this site in order that readers will be more exposed to what is true than what is falsely claimed as true.

Steven ... Malachi 3 : 2 kjv...plainly tells us about a cleansing fire that is coming the last day .Who shall abide the day of his coming, Who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a REFINERS FIRE AND FULLERS SOAP. ...TO PURFIY the sons of Levi meaning the Sons of God that we might offer an offering of righteousness unto the lord etc..our bodies.offer up your bodies a sacrifice etc

....This is nothin less then Baptism of the H.G. and Fire which is judgement beginning at the house of God meaning a new heart and a new spirit etc...And Steven that cleansing fire is the H.G. which is what we soo need....Whom the Lord loveth he chastens.

....We gotta keep in mind that our God is a consuming fire as Hebrews says...That is gonna consume our old adamic nature....Thats y baptism of the H.G AND FIRE IS SO IMPORTANT...OK GBU

Thanks brother. Your words, from the Word of God, ought to strike our hearts with a searing iron. It certainly does mine especially when I read some comments that are so far removed from the Truth, prompting others to believe a lie.

Many forget that the Gospel of the Cross is two-fold: one of propitiation ( 1 John 2:2: to provide a means for atonement & forgiveness by God, as well as to avert God's Anger against the sinner); and one requiring a response ( Romans 10:13,14). If the Gospel fails in both conditions, then there can be no salvation - we are forever lost in our sins. Though I've sought an answer to this several times in the past, without a response, I can only understand that there are some who believe in the first part (of God's Forgiveness), but the second part is almost inconsequential. And why so? For God is All-Loving, All-Forgiving, & all men will eventually be saved (a Universalism teaching). Why then the need for repentance in this life? Why did the apostles hazard their lives, even laying them down for the Gospel, if those enemies of the Cross would be changed & accepted by God in the last day? Where does the Bible ever speak about a 'second-chance salvation'? Why should the believer ever be called upon to live holy separated lives unto God if even the unrepentant will be saved?

And then some consider us as believers in a vengeful angry God. And yet we have the Scriptures: Matthew 7:13; John 3:36; Hebrews 10:31; Hebrews 12:25,29; & many more showing that here is a God Who is to be feared & none can stand guiltless in His Presence. Thank you again for bringing this to light brother - it may be that others will be able to differentiate between the true & false Gospels.

Thank you, brother Chris.

Those scriptures you quoted should be considered explained if they hold the view that a loving God will not allow a lost sinner to go to heaven. They take away his very being and attributes. Judgement, Nahum 1:3.

They also fail to understand that everyone is not baptized into Christ. And if they're not in Christ they die in Adam and face the second death. 1 Corinthians 15:20-23.

This belief that all will be saved by fire contradicts the preaching of the cross and what may not seem obvious at first glance, but they devalue the love of God denying the display of love presented when we read John 3:16 and Romans 5:8-9.

Perhaps Romans 5:8. is a clearer picture of that love when read with 1 Peter 1:20. "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,"

God didn't make man, find out what he would be like, and then send a savior. God saw all that was in man including Putin, Hitler, Abortionist, Racism, ect.. before the foundation of the world. Yet he sent his son to die in our place.

If there is no judgement or penalty for the sinner, then the cross doesn't display that love.

God bless.

Amen brother. Thank you for sharing more Truths with us.

Dear Chris,

I pray that God will give those here discernment between truth and error for the sake of their souls. I pray that those of us who can relate sound doctrine on here do so. I pray that those who promote false and dangerous heresies will have a change of mind and conviction. I pray that those who are new in the faith will be protected from error. I pray that the Spirit will attest to the truth in the hearts of believers and alert believers of error. I pray that those here will be like the Bereans and check everything against Scripture to see if what someone says aligns with the word of God. I pray that, like the Bereans, those on here will come to know the Word more thoroughly and understand what is being taught within context rather than relying on singled out verses to prove a certain doctrine.

This is such an open forum without internal checks for doctrinal accuracy. So, as a warning, this openness allows for much error to be promoted here.

Amen Gigi.

Well stated! I also pray anyone visiting the site to do as the Bereans. Fellowship but test everything scripture. But the trouble and what's blasphemous about these teachings is they claim you can't learn the scripture by the letter, "EVERYTHING" is spiritualized and hidden from their eyes.

But what they fail to mention is salvation is a clear message, it's only hidden from those who sought salvation through Judaism.

And the preaching of the cross is only foolish to those who are lost.

Spencer thats exactly what Israel did they thought that everything was in the written word....Israel was Sola Scriptura they knew the bible by heart..But ISRAEL stoned every prophet that GOD sent them and rejected the Christ so much for the written WORD.

....The written WORD ANSWERS to the lesser light but the living Word which is the H.G. is the greater light...Jesus said are there not 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night..But if a man walk in the night he is gona stumble...The nite was always the lesser light...But the greater light is Christ the light of the world...That day star that has to rise in our hearts via the living word his voice.

....Jesus asked 1 day which of the Prophets has not your fathers stoned...Israel stoned almost all of the prophets with the law that written word under their arms....Thus that written word that you so much worship is a killer...But the living WORD IS A LIFE GIVER

Thank You S. Spencer,

for these good words from Scripture today. The true Gospel speaks the truth of Scripture on all points, not just some, as some do among us. Let's hold fast to that which has been delivered once and for all to the saints.