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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 189067

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Danicia Passley on Psalms 17 - 2 years ago
    I Jesus and God one person or separate?
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Danica,

    if you are asking if Jesus is one person or two, He is two natures (God and man) in one Person. There are not two Jesus' in one Person, rather two natures that are unified in one Person without having the natures mix together to new mixed singular nature. When one looked at Jesus, they saw a God/Man. He is this God/Man forever, or High Priest as to His humanity and our Lord as to His divinity.

    This may be hard for us to understand how this can be. But we can believe (it even if we do not fully understand it. Jesus (the eternal God the Son) took into His deity humanity. He is not a man who acquired divinity; rather God who became also man without ceasing to be God.

    Hope this helps.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Psalms 17 - 2 years ago
    Guess no one has attempted to answer you yet-so I will say the easiest answer is BOTH. In addition to this; of course we have the Holy Spirit as part of the Godhead. The easiest way; I suppose to look at it is that the Godhead (Elohim as mentioned in Genesis 1) consists of all 3 members of the Trinity. There is perfect unity; but different functions for each member. Jesus was referred to as my Lord and my God in John 20:28 by "doubting" Thomas after viewing His wounds after the Resurrection. Clearly; God the Father had to remain untouched by sin so that the universe could be held together; for sin had to bring death to the Son as predetermined by the Father ( Isaiah 53:10). Christ had conversations with and prayed to the Father; so clearly this is an eternal past; present and future state with the exception of that brief moment at Calvary.

    It seems that the Holy Spirit is misunderstood for His main role bringing conviction of sin righteousness and judgment to come ( John 16:8). There is no scripture where the "helper" ( John 14:26) is instructed to be worshipped. Instead; it strengthens the believer; as a small reflection of Christ who possessed the Spirit "without limit" or measure ( John 3:34).

    Believers have quibbled as to verses that mention the Trinity and others only mentioning baptism in the name of Christ. We also need to understand the Christophenes or preincarnate appearances of Christ. No one has seen the Father according to Christ; surely the full glory of God would kill a man ( John 1:18; Exodus 33:18-20). The Spirit has only been described in a visible manifestation or accompanying sign once; in Acts at Pentecost. Jesus makes it clear that when the Comforter (i.e. Spirit) comes that WE shall dwell with him ( John 14:23). He is to ask the Father and He sends it ( John 14:16).

    I suppose a a good read of John is appropriate on these matters! Even one member of the Godhead is beyond our puny minds to understand. Agape. Rich P



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