Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Alex N - 2 years ago
    Satan is in everyone of us...Thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptiible seed...Remember Jesus wd not commit himself to not one of them b/c he knew what was in man and needed not that any should testify of MAN...Thats y Jesus said outta of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of Evil...It was not just Judas or Peter ITS ALL OF US....We are ALL born with a carnal mind an adamic nature which is the very enemy of God... Romans 8 : 7 ..Satan is truly the God of this present world...And he is in our minds that y we lust after every thing we see.. Even Paul had this problem saying O wretched man that i am, with my mind i serve the LAW of God but with my Flesh ( Satan ) the law of Sin...And in Rev 2 : 13 John tells the angel i know where thou dwellest even where Satans seat is...Thats y we are in such a warfare, we war in the Spirit with Satan and his angels...Our Carnal minds is in rank with Satan...I know where thou dwellest even where satans seat is but holdest fast to my name and has not denied my faith,Even on those days where antipas was slain among you Where Satan dwellest....Satan was in their minds,..Kingdom against Kingdom...War in heaven meaning in the spirit...But when this corruptible puts on incorruption and this mortal puts on immortality...Satan will be destroyed ...No more WARFARE...This whole world is gonna be at REST and full of his Glory....As Isaiah and David spoke of.... Rev. 22 John saw no more curse impling no more adamic nature.. SATANS SEAT...Gbu
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    No where in the Bible does it say satan is inside everyone.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Alex,

    I believe that unredeemed mankind is influenced by evil because of the sin nature that abides in us due to Adam succumbing to

    evil temptation. I do also know that Satan is not omni-present, He can only be in one place at one time. The same is true for

    each of his fallen angels that follow him. So, I do not believe that Satan is in every human person. Sinfulness is in all of us,

    though, but our humanness is not to be despised as it is a work of God's creation that he said was good. Gnostics saw our

    physical nature as evil and that our spiritual nature as good. This is called dualism. But Scripture clearly says both our whole

    humanness is good as created by God. But, since the fall, sinfulness attached itself to our whole nature, physical and spiritual,

    what God has created as good has been corrupted by sin. This is why we are helpless to overcome sin and evil in our

    unredeemed state. When we are redeemed by God, are spirit is changed by the Holy Spirit so that we can believe the gospel

    and receive the salvation accomplished for us in the death and resurrection of Jesus. Our redeemed human person now has the

    Holy Spirit in us to give us power to resist the devil, sin, and put to death our sinful nature whenever it arise to tempt us into

    sin. In this life we will not have total victory over this sinful nature. We will battle it until we die or are resurrected with the

    coming of Jesus.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Gi Gi lemme add a lil something...Talking bout Warfare in the spritual realm... Jesus said When he the Spirt of truth is come he will reprove the world of sin and righteousness and judgement...And she brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule ALL NATIONS...These 2 scriptures wrap up all warfare scriptures...Its not something we can do, its something that God is gonna do in this New Covenant the contents of the Book...I will make a new covenant etc...Its the manchild which is the H.G. that Child of Promise that is gonna lead us into all truth...And rule all nations...And unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ( the Child of Promise the H.G. You will in no wise enter there in...But this requires us having to know him thats when the good seed is gonna be sown in our hearts initiating a birth of Christ in us...Thats y he always refered to himself as the son of man...Mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God Thats y the sower wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts ...Which is a baby Christ the H.G. THE Child of Promise...The multiplication of God to whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods...Thats y Jesus was saying that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit thats the H.G that results from his seed his words etc....And this is that Spiirt of truth that is gonna reprove the world of sin and righteousness...The manchild which is the H.G. that Child of Promise is gonna Rule ALL NATIONS...this fulfills all warfare scriptures...k gbu
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen, Brother Alex!
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Gi Gi luv ya sweety...But lemme give ya my Heart on Mans Spritual Condition...In Adam we all die but in Christ we will ALL live...You said that Satan was not omnipresent but he is...In the fact that Satan is the God of this present world makes him omnipresent he is in everymans Seed...Thus EVERY child that will ever be born will have to be bornagain of an incorruptible Seed which is the seed of Christ that 2 nd Adam...Thats y Jesus was saying outta of the hearts of man proceeds All manner of evil...And there were none righteous no NOT ONE...Simply b/c every person ever born carried the stain and the spot of Adam...And thats y Christ had to come and die...Jesus knew that that horrible stain and spot was on every person ever born thus he wd have to stain with his blood every person...As Isaiah said he wd stain all his raiment meaning the world...God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son etc...Jesus said if ye Being Evil know how to give good gifts to your Children how much more will the Father give a good Gift to his Children...But Gi Gi Jesus had the ability to see in mans Hearts...Many believed in his name when they saw the miracles that he did...But Jesus wd NOT commit himself to them b/c Jesus knew ALL MEN and needed not that any should testify of MAN...Even John the bap. doubted in the end and Jesus said that John was the greatest of them born of a woman...Art thou he that should come or look we for another...Even Peter told Jesus when they 1st met depart from me lord i am a sinful ( wicked ) person...And Paul said in my Flesh dwells no good thing.

    .....Its b/c of this Adamic Nature which is in rank with satan....That God wants to give humanity a new heart and a new spriit which answers to the New Haven and the new Earth...IMO..And that y this whole world needs to be bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of God that LIVETH AND ABIDETH FOR EVER....The living word ( the book in the fathers right hand) are the words of life...
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, maybe your following assumption is at the heart of the difference: "In the fact that Satan is the God of this present world makes him omnipresent he is in everymans Seed"

    Is your assumption true and will scripture validate or invalidate this?

    Job 1:6-12 - this says satan has limited power.

    John 12:31 - Jesus calls satan prince of the world.

    These verses don't say he is omnipresent or in anyone's seed.

    What verse do you use as your source for your seed belief and what makes you so confident in this that you're willing to spread around this information to convince people that this is true? What if it isn't?
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Adam Jesus said outta of the hearts of man proceeds ALL manner of evil..Satan...And there was none righteous no not one.. the curse of Adam was applied to every man...Not 1 single man in ALL of humanity cd escape the Curse of Adam thats y Jesus said you are of your Father the Devil...In Adam we all die but in Christ we will ALL live...Thats y Jesus had to die to wash away the Curse of Adam ( Satan ) which was applied to every man....By the disobedience of 1 man sin ( Satan ) entered the world..But as David said he will make his enemy his footstool....which is our carnal mind which is Satan's seat.

    .....And thats y Jesus said outta of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil ( satanic ) ...Thats y he refered to Peter as Satan simply b/c of Peters old adamic nature his carnal mind etc....which is in rank with Satan.

    ....Adam seems you wd understand that all wars are of Satan...Aman cd not kill innocence woman and Children unless Satan was in his heart...right...When Jesus told em you are of your Father the Devil that speaks volumes of mankind having an satanic nature prone to sin...There was none righteous no not one simply b/c satan is in everymans Adamic Nature

    ....Thats y God wants to give us ALL a New HEART and a New Spirit....Simply b/c our old ADAMIC NATURE is in rank with Satan
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Alex, it sounds like you're conflating with man's inclination to sin with satan. Sin is an act, satan is an evil being, and these are not synonymous. Just because people are tempted to sin doesn't mean satan automatically must dwell in that person. I believe people can be demon possessed if they invite that into their life.

    I noticed you didn't reply with any scripture evidence of your claim, however there is proof against your claim: 1 Corinthians 3:16. The holy spirit dwells within me. God bless.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Adam GBU I don't mean to be contrary...But you don't seem to understand that murder is of the Devil...Satan.. Do you not remember that David was a man after Gods own heart...a GREAT MAN OF GOD...But David premeditated the murder of Uriah. I just used David as an Illustration to show you how Satan is in mans Carnal mind...Proving the Satanic nature we have...And David was a man after Gods own heart...Under the law David was guilty of murder 1...Premeditated Murder...And David was a good guy...And every person has this potential demonic nature...Not 1 person can escape this curse of ADAM...This demonic nature...We are all easily corrupted b/c of this adamic nature...And thats y we must be bornagain of an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED which is the seed of Christ that 2 nd ADAM...True Righteousness in the sight of God is being INCORRUPTIBLE...We must be bornagain of an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED..which is the contents of the book in the Fathers right hand that New Covenant that Jesus wrote with his own blood...It goes all the way back to CAIN & Abel when Cain killed his brother ABEL that horrible Curse of Adam had already kicked in...Thats y I keep telling ya that mans adamic nature is in rank with Satan...But Adam we should not be having this conversation...This is elementary Sunday School stuff....You being a Christian should know this... GBU
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex, this will be my last reply on the subject as I can perceive that you seem very rooted in your belief despite not sharing any scripture to support it. 1 Corinthians 3:16 refutes the claim that satan is inside everyone.

    Lots of assumptions were made in the last reply and this time it included a strawman argument: "You being a Christian should know this." I hope this assumption is only an honest mistake and not intended to be manipulative. Your words appear to keep conflating sin with satan. Curse of Adam is a curse and isn't the same as satan being inside a person. Sin isn't the same as satan being inside a person. No where in the Bible does it say satan is in everyone. Christians have the holy spirit within, not satan, as 1 Corinthians 3:16 says.

    Here's another verse that refutes it: Matthew 7:18. Someone with the holy spirit dwelling doesn't also have satan dwelling.

    Satan probably wants people to believe he is in them though. I can see that playing into his hand and he is the father of all lies. Luke 6:45. Isaiah 5:20. God bless.
  • Alex N - In Reply - 2 years ago
    No Adam you do greatly err Paul had the H.G. But Paul said when i wd do good Evil is present with me...So with my mind i serve the law of God but with my flesh the law of sin...Adam we are involved in a warfare after we are saved and filled with the H.G...Satan keeps on fighting us even after we are saved...Jesus wants sow a good seed in us but after the GOOD SEED is sown in us...Then satan sows a tare in us...We do not get rid of Satan the tare till the harvest...Even after we are saved Satan is trying to kill us spritually...Jesus said at the harvest i will say to the reapers gather up the tares in bundles and burn them...But the HARVEST IS THE END OF THE WORLD...But gather the wheat into my barn...His kingdom

    ....Adam yes sin is Satan...ANYTHING not of FAITH is sin...and all sin is of the devil SATAN...As he is the God of this present world...When Jesus said you are of your Father the DEVIL thats b/c of sin...Our carnal minds is Satans Seat as Rev 2 :13..John was writing to the Angel at the Church at Pergamos and he said i know where thou DWELLEST even where SATANS SEAT IS ...In the mind of man...our carnal minds is the very enemy of God according to Romans 8 : 7...We are 2 persons the wheat and the tares make us 2 persons...thus the warfare, the 2 men in 1 bed is really just 1 person that has been bornagain thus the wheat and the tares make him 2 persons...The wheat will be taken but the tares will be burned.

    ....Adam Jesus plainly tells us Outta of the hearts of man proceeds ALL MANNER OF EVIL....( Satan )...That should tells ya something about our carnal minds being in rank with Satan.

    .... 1ST John 3 : 8 All PEOPLE that practice SIN is of the Devil Satan, for this cause was the Son of God manifested that he might destroy the works of the Devil ( satan )....Mans carnal mind has to be renewed we all need the mind of Christ.

    .....Adam.... Rev 22 : 3 John said he saw no more Curse this implies no more Adamic Nature , no more SATANS SEAT...Gbu Adam...
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex, I do not concur with you as to Satan being in everyone nor omnipresent. The Scripture does not say either of these things. So, that being said, I will exit this thread as I do not wish to continue.



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