Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Someone - 2 years ago
    is Psalms 5:5 a Bible contradiction?
  • Marke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    To love good is to hate evil.

    Amos 5:15

    Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the Lord God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

    Psalm 97:10

    Ye that love the Lord, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

    God loves all sinners as they are born into the world, but those sinners who willfully, knowingly, and spitefully reject the witness of the Holy Spirit to their hearts and minds pointing them to Jesus as Savior anger Him for their willful rebellion. Those who spitefully reject the word of God make themselves enemies of God and good, earning for themselves the just hatred and wrath of God.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I'm unsure what you are seeing in Psalm 5:5 as a contradiction, so I'll share a little anyway.

    "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity." King David has been speaking about those that have "pleasure in wickedness", those who "speak leasing (lying)", & those that "shed blood & practise deceit". But of course, those who continue in that state of sin, as David himself also succumbed to, will suffer under God's Hand. But as David realized his folly & sin, he repented & was restored.

    In Psalm 5:5, it also states that the "foolish & workers of iniquity" will also be abhored by God, just as those described in these other verses. Maybe the word 'foolish' is your concern here. In Hebrew, the word is 'ho-wl-lim', which strangely, means 'to shine'. But the word used in context, implies these people are 'shiners', i.e. those shining out their characters, displaying self, indulging in self-praise. This display of themselves demonstrated their 'foolishness' by not changing their behaviour & having an incorrect perspective of themselves & others.

    So in today's usage, this type of display is also regarded as sinful, as we see that true humility is a godly quality whereas boastfulness & pride are not of God & will be regarded as other sins. We need to, as Peter said in 1 Peter 5:6, to "Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time". We can only truly be humble before God if that humility is already evident in our lives & in relation to others.
  • Random - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I was trying to say that the Bible says that God loves the world but psalm 5:5 says that God hates workers of iniquity and I don't understand how those coexist when they seem complete opposites of each other.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Random, God loves all people, and since all people do sin, he loves sinners and He wants to save them. What He actually hates is the iniquity itself, the sin itself not the people.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thank you Random; understood. Others I believe have answered your question.
  • What Psalm 5:5 means - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Meaning of Psalm 5:5

    According to this verse, the boastful will not stand in God's presence. Those who praise themselves instead of God will not stand in God's presence. Psalm 1:5 mentions this fact too. It says, "the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous." Absalom, whom David was fleeing, was boastful and arrogant ( 2 Samuel 15:1-6).

    Second Samuel 15:4 reports that he would say, "Oh that I were judge in the land! Then every man with a dispute or cause might come to me, and I would give him justice." Jesus told the story of a proud Pharisee who went to the temple and boasted about his self-righteousness but was rejected by God ( Luke 18:9-14). Jesus said, "Everyone who exalts himself will be humbled" ( Luke 18:14).

    Scripture tells us God hates all evildoers (see also Psalm 11:5). The word "hate" may seem harsh, but we must try to understand how abhorrent evil is in God's eyes. Murderers, liars, and deceivers such as those who wanted to destroy David are totally detestable to God and therefore merit His righteous, holy hatred.

    Mishael



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