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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 190731

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Parvez Charles - 2 years ago
    What fruit Adam and Eve ate, is that some kind of real i.e. apple etc. Or ?
  • Luke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Everything points to a grape. From a vine tree. " the pure blood of the grape" Mary said, they don't have any more wine, he said, woman what have I to do with thee, mine hour has not yet come, to shed his blood, "wine, blood, grape.

    My story is when Satan tempted Eve, he popped a grape in his mouth, and said, see I'm still alive. If I would guess Adam and Eve had salt water running through their veins. Then Eve ate the grape, " pure blood of the grape" and now she had blood running through her veins, and she turned pink, the blushing race. Adam comes by and sees her and she's pink, he knew what happened. As Christ died for the church, Adam took the fruit and died for her. God would have given him a new wife.

    Christ said, I will not henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until the day when I drink it new.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Of course no one knows; surely it could have been ANY type of red fruit.

    If we take a closer look at the fruit for the healing of the nations ( Rev 22:2); we see fruit that seems to come out every month.

    From a purely scientific viewpoint; that which would be the combination of attributes of all generations which is the ancestral species would likely have the most number of nutrients; and of course the original tree of life which was restricted immediately after the fall likely was of a substance which would allow for eternal life with the original pure composition.

    One could look at this tree in some ways as bringing eternal death; much in the same way but opposite of the tree of life.

    Clearly the restriction from that tree allowed Adam not to have to live forever in his original fallen state and allowed for the promise of Christ and the 2nd Adam; as it were to be the future of all believers. Whether Adam made it or not isn't clear from scripture; as no mention of him is in Hebrews 11; for example.

    So as to what it was is a mystery. Somehow; it allowed for the initial deterioration of human DNA and death to not only affect man but also the whole creation and for perhaps the moon and stars to become impure in His sight. There certainly is a physical component even to Hades; and certainly to hell.

    It really is too awful to think about for any length of time. If Adam did make it to heaven; he will have the conscience that because of him and Eve all saints have had to suffer greatly. What a legacy. Thank God that there is something stronger; and the enemy no longer has power over the death of man restricting him from heaven (to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord now; Hallelujiah.) God may create circumstances and entities that turn evil; as well as understand good and evil; but must judge all iniquity with His wrath. Only Christ could become the curse for us hanging on the tree; much like the serpent on the pole in Numbers.
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard:

    Revelation 22:2 .....the LEAVES are for the healing of the nations ....

    Parable:

    Christ is the ROOT, we are the BRANCHES, branches bear leaves, the saints are for the healing of the nations.

    Matthew 24:32 ......PARABLE ......When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth LEAVES, you now summer is nigh.

    And what follows summer, FALL when the crop is HARVESTED, feast of ingathering.

    Isaiah 6:13 .....when they cast their LEAVES; the HOLY SEED shall be the substance thereof.

    God Bless You!
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Parvez:

    The tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

    The fruit would be "KNOWLEDGE" of good and evil.

    God Bless you!
  • Daniel - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There's a free moral will that God gave all mankind and the same to Adam & Eve in the garden. The forbidden fruit was that of type never specified and they had the will to resist the temptation but fell. Although there are many Spiritual only definition in the Bible, the fruit does represent that it was physical. In both secular and early roman (catholic) literature -- the writings came about the forbidden fruit being an apple. The Holy Bible never says it was an apple and many say "well, it was a fig because in Adam & Eve's shame they covered themselves in fig leaves." Regardless, the Bible never asserts it was a fig either. It's not what God wanted us to know. He wanted us to know that He gave us everything and for the one thing which is forbidden; Adam & Eve ate of this one thing God forbade thus brining sin & death into the world.

    But, Jesus Christ came, shed His innocent Blood on the Cross for us, rose from the grave and ascended giving us His Holy Ghost. Sin and death are still in the world but live and eternity are still in Christ Jesus. Amen!

    John Chapter 3

    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
  • Dav47 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Gen 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

    It is sad till this day Churches still teach Eve ate an apple. Many don't even know that apple is not even mentioned in the whole book of Genesis. It is a long answer that covers the whole Bible but will try a short version. 1st break down the Hebrew words and their meanings.

    (fruit) Hebrew = Noun masculine=seed; fruit of the womb is the impregnation of the seed

    (touch) = Hebrew verb: (touch) = ; is a primitive root meaning to lie with a woman

    Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

    1st Prophecy of the Bible. Serpent more subtle than all GODs creation, which HE made the full package of beauty, might and cunningness;

    Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

    Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

    They didn't sew fig leaves to cover their mouth but to cover their private parts. CHRIST commanded us to learn the parable of the fig tree that began here in the Garden of Eden. The key of David is knowing who and where the Kenites came from. CHRIST only approved of 2 churches of the end time and they both knew the key of David.

    Gen 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

    Beguiled= (Heb. Nasha) means to wholly seduce. Before this seduction they were both naked and not ashamed ( Gen. 2:25) but after they were. Serpent wholly seduced Eve and the woman convinced Adam to take part in the act.



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