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  • Dawn Pattison on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    i would like to know why the Archangel Michael is referred to as our Prince?
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Dawn.

    Michael the archangel seems to be a powerful militant angel in the behalf of Israel.

    And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of "THY PEOPLE" and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

    Daniel 12:1.

    Daniel 10:13.

    Daniel 10:21.

    However we know he is not Christ.

    We can easily refute that here in Jude and in the book of Luke.

    Here in Jude 1:8-9. you see Michael the archangel gives respect to dominion and says THE LORD REBUKE YOU.

    Jude 1:9. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

    Here in Luke 4:8. We see Jesus who created all things rebuke Satan.

    "And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."

    Michael the archangel is a created being.

    "The Angel of the Lord is the pre incarcerated Christ. Who created all things.

    Colossians 1:16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    John 1:3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    Hey Dawn Pattison,

    Revelation 1:5 is about Jesus; He is the prince of the kings of the world. The word prince used is the Greek word archon meaning; ruler, governor, leader, leading man, no authority higher. God placed Jesus above all, Philippians 2:9, and He will reign until all enemies are put under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:25.

    Michael is one of the chief princes, the only one called archangel, Jude 1:9 and the prince of the people of the house of Israel, Daniel 10:13-21. At the end we see that Michael will stand up, Daniel 12:1, also in Revelation 12:7-12 Michael and other angels cast Satan out of heaven down to this earth permanently.

    God bless.

    RLW
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    It would appear that he was designated to be the principality assigned to protect Israel; as other angelic but fallen beings are in charge as well (such as the Prince of Persia). Thus; in God's prophetic timeclock these entities are in warring mode; such as the Revelation 12 war in heaven which is designed to occur at the midpoint of the Tribulation and attached to the time when the earthly Antichrist begins his 3.5 year rule along with the mark of the beast when subsequently the angel of the bottomless pit (Abaddon or Apollyon) possesses him; AND the world worships the dragon (Satan) who gives power for this rulership.

    It is such as a top leader over lesser entities that the battles in heavenly places occur. Clearly; these are tied into the prayers of saints; as in Daniel's case with the 21 day delay in answering his prayers. There are certain rulers of earth; therefore which are tied to the entities that are controlling them as God Himself delegates authority. Just how the fate and end of nations tie into the individuals and when they reach a point when judgment is ripe is something in God's plans. For now; prophetically we know that Israel will be preserved along with a godly remnant until God's judgments (Jacob's trouble) commences; then the victory is won in heavenly places once Satan is cast out. On the earth; eventually when they cry out to their deliverer they will be saved from total destruction but not until half the city is ravished; and 2/3 die in all the land. In short; all things in heavenly places are where the real action is; and what we see with natural eyes just a reflection.

    All these beings work in submission to Christ as governing authority; even the dark side is utilized for His purposes.
  • ELB - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    Dawn:

    Christ is the Angel of the Lord (the Father).

    Christ is the highest ranked Angel.

    Christ is Michael the Archangel.

    Christ is the Prince.

    Isaiah 63:9 ....and the ANGEL of HIS PRESENCE (the Father's presence, the ONLY LIFE there is) saved them.

    Christ is the saviour, therefore Christ is the Angel, the messenger of the Father.

    Luke 1:19 And the Angel answering him said unto him, I AM Gabriel, that stands in the presence of God ...

    Anyone standing in the presence of God, has the LIFE OF GOD.

    Ephesians 4:6 There is ONE GOD (ONE LIFE) and Father of ALL (standing in his presence), and above ALL, and through ALL, and IN YOU ALL.

    John 14:6 I AM THE LIFE .....

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ in You ....

    2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and will rather to be absent from the body, and to be PRESENT (in the presence) of the lord (the ONLY LIFE).

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (the only Life) that worketh IN YOU (his body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE SPIRIT, and ONE BODY .....

    God Bless You!
  • Streetpreacher - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    Wesley's Notes for Revelation 12:7

    And there was war in heaven - Here Satan makes his grand opposition to the kingdom of God; but an end is now put to his accusing the saints before God. The cause goes against him, verses 10, 11, Revelation 12:10-11 and Michael executes the sentence. That Michael is a created angel, appears from his not daring, in disputing with Satan, Jude 9, to bring a railing accusation; but only saying, The Lord rebuke thee. And this modesty is implied in his very name; for Michael signifies, Who is like God? which implies also his deep reverence toward God, and distance from all self - exaltation. Satan would be like God: the very name of Michael asks, Who is like God? Not Satan; not the highest archangel. It is he likewise that is afterward employed to seize, bind, and imprison that proud spirit.

    People's Bible Notes for Revelation 12:7,8 And there was war in heaven. The woman had been seen in heaven, and there she is seen to be assailed. She has, however, a champion who fights her battles.

    The angel Micheal is called ( Dan. 12:1) a "prince"



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