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  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    Series of events, from judgment on into eternity.

    Revelation 20:11-15.

    Judgment and the division of two groups. Those written in the book of life and those cast into the lake of fire. Matthew 25:41.

    Revelation 21:1-6.

    New heaven and new earth.

    Revelation 21:7-8.

    A mention of two separate groups set for two destinations.

    Here in Revelation 21:9-27. we have

    A view of the bride and great city Jerusalem and the nations of them which are saved and the gates.

    Notice who's is absent in verse 27.(And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:) Note; Same group in Revelation 20:15.

    We shall see this group again in the next chapter.

    However here's a group that made it in! ( but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.)

    Revelation 22:1-21.

    Verse 10 the climax.

    "And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand."

    Separation. and fate sealed.

    NO REFINING FIRE.

    Revelation 22:11-15. HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL: and he which is filthy, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL: and he that is righteous, LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL: and he that is holy, LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.

    And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

    I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    FOR WITHOUT ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS, AND WHOREMONGERS, AND MURDERERS, AND IDOLATERS, and WHOSOEVER LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.( Same group in Revelation 20:15.

    Revelation21: 27.)

    and Matthew 25:41.

    Who's the unjust that is unjust still?

    A warning!! Revelation 22:18-19.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Chris.

    Now is the time for salvation!!

    That time seems to winding down.

    I believe it's evident in the state of the world and also in the Apostasy at large. Also with this pandemic we've seen a sifting sort to speak.

    Hebrews 9:27-28. seems to parallel with Revelation 22.

    "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."

    Revelation 22:11, 14-15. HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL: AND HE WHICH IS FILTHY, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

    Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    FOR WITHOUT ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS, AND WHOREMONGERS, AND MURDERERS, AND IDOLATERS, AND WHOSOEVER LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.

    There's a solemn warning for those who desire to add or take anything away from this book.

    NO Ambassador of Christ would dare do that. Wisdom is known by her children and that certainly wouldn't be wise.

    The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. But why fear if there is no consequences.

    This false teaching there is no Satan no Hell and no consequences assists and comfort a sinner in his folly.

    Look at Ecclesiastes 8:11-12. it confirms that.

    And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17.

    Man has to realize his condition and hopeless fate and come. otherwise he will be UNJUST STILL.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks again brother S. Spencer for those very worthy comments. As I went through the Scriptures you shared, my mind was directed to another great stalwart of the faith & the Gospel, Gen. William Booth of the Salvation Army. I realize that the Salvos, in these days, seem to have lost that fire that Booth instilled in them, majoring more on the social side of Christianity, but here are a couple of his well-known quotes, written probably towards the end of the 19th Century:

    "I consider that the chief dangers which confront the coming century (i.e. the 20th) will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, and heaven without hell."

    Here we are in the 21st Century: no truer words spoken then - and the world will depart increasingly further away from God, His Son, His Spirit, & the Gospel.

    "Most Christians would like to send their recruits to Bible college for five years. I would like to send them to hell for five minutes. That would do more than anything else to prepare them for a lifetime of compassionate ministry."

    It has been recorded that he often shared these words to those being prepared for the Gospel ministry - that their vision of perishing souls should not be blurred by the difficult circumstances they would face or the evil bearing upon them.

    May the thoughts given in Jude 1:20-25 be our prayer for one another here on this Site, & particularly as we see wickedness in the world run rampant & the thoughts of men are continually evil. Every blessing brother.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Chris.

    I've read a few of his quotes but that one bypassed me.

    The bible speaks of this falling away throughout scripture, even symbolic in the Leaven offered in shavuot.

    It's no comfort to me to engage in this debate in such manner. It's actually heart breaking.

    If nothing else you're blessed with the clarity of scripture being played out before your very eyes. It declares the truth.

    Jesus foretold his desciples many things for them to observe that they might believe.

    John 13:19.

    John 14:29.

    Thank you and God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks brother for a good division of these final chapters of the Revelation. And more importantly, the glorious prospect of those in Christ & only the torment of judgement against those without Him. These chapters should spur us on, being deep in our thoughts, when sharing this wonderful news of Salvation to those without hope & lost in sin.



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