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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 192320

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Ernesto Damian on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    Can you tell me wich is the correct definition of "person" in the context of the KJV Bible ?

    In this bible clearly, "man" and "person" are two diferent concepts. But where is "person" defined ?

    I mean, in Latin, "person/a" refers to the mask wich were used by actors at that time.

    So I assume, that In this ancient texts, the term "Person" can not be interpretated as the modern concept of "person/a".

    Job 32:21 "Let me not, I pray you, accept any man's person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man"

    Thanks all in advance !
  • Free - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    Hi everyone with Godly thoughts :) i love u all in Christ. It was nice to think of "person". A living individual with lots around. Then it also means that men are both man and woman. For since the person does not mean much, then man must mean everything else. And it's big, we are all equal before God. With schemes of course.

    Words that come to mind during the day, especially since i have read all the answers you have received here. I guess everyone now understands that we are in the last days. :) OH Jesus Christ is coming soon, let us all have assurance of salvation.

    You write Michael: The Earth changed the moment of Jesus's first breath as a human child. He would take all of mankind's sins on himself and pay the penalty for our freedom, from sin.

    Quote end. That is exactly what i noted today. Galatians 4:4 Here it is now important to notice the confusion God's people have. Since we are trained in many areas, we go the way we want. In a way. What seems easy to understand. So that we do not have to think so much about where we are on the map, in a way. Although we all strive to come forward. Have my thoughts turned to Why am i left here on earth? With the personality i have. It is if the Lord sees that we do not bear fruit. He will take us home right away. John 15:1-8

    The conclusion is that we who are on earth, still have people to save! We never really get bored. We go to work day after day. And as long as we bear fruit, we have a duty to the Lord! That is the meaning of our lives. Maybe some days we do not see this. Then it's good to come here on the web and see that your friends, siblings, are still here. We stack ourselves towards the goal that lies in the heart. Everyone, have confidence in this!

    God bless us all in Jesus name, He will lead us to the whole truth. Amen
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 1:26-28,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Ernesto Damian - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    Thanks for your care T.Levy !

    But, i think you are assuming that "man" and "person" has the same meaning in this ancien text, wich they not.

    If they were the same, you couldnt explain the Jacob's passage wich is the mtter of this thread.

    A piece of advice is...If you decide to read ancient books, dont assume or give anything for granted. Archaic english can give a whole new meaning to this passages. Cuestion, study and be enlighten.

    Joy !
  • Mishael - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    The study of that one word is gigantic. Hang out here until Chris comes in tomorrow.

    I went on Google and typed: person, Bible meaning

    The results are like a small book. Be patient.
  • Ernesto Damian - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    Thank you Mishael; in the meantime I did my research.

    Common sense indicates me that since this text (KJV) is a traduction from other texts in another language (maybe hebrew?), in ancient times, i guess maybe the traductors tried to find a word that resemble the same concept for that word used in the originals.

    But theres another thing to take in account.

    Since this bible was wrote in 1611, the word "person" can not significate the same that in modern times (in the juristic sense, and in the vulgar use of it).

    So i went to Merriam Webster Dcty.

    And found the following:

    In archaic english; "person" means : bodily appearance.

    And that makes sense to me.

    In that time "person" didnt mean "a human being", or an "individual"; they used the word "man" for that.

    So, "person" in the context of the scriptures written in the 15 century is meaning "the fisical appereance of a man" coincidentaly to the latin etimology.

    And the Lord God is continualy advicing us no to make diferences on behalf the person, nor to make acceptance of it.

    Thanks again Mishael !
  • Persons That Can Make a Difference_Mishael - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    You did all the work, and I'm grateful for your post.

    I would've answered, man. But nowadays people have separated us into "groups"; according to sexual preference. It's another sign of Jesus's return, in the clouds.

    Briefly__Earth was created for man. Lucifer was here as a serpent. He is not now or since the garden of Eden, human. Jesus is God, but he appeared as the Angel of the Lord in OT. Humans live in the constraint of time.

    It was the act of Abraham being willing to sacrifice his own son (as ordered), we are able to understand the depth of pain God felt about sacrificing his own son for us humans. Time flowed until Mary and Joseph. It was time for Jesus to enter the world as a mere human. He laid aside all his powers to do that.

    The Earth changed the moment of Jesus's first breath as a human child. He would take all of mankind's sins on himself and pay the penalty for our freedom, from sin.

    Satan, still without a body; but he could borrow bodies of willing humans. It still happens this day. Christians are different because we believe the blood Jesus shed for us, is upon us. We have authority and power, in the NAME of Jesus to force Satan to leave, go into outer darkness. Evil spirits too. All must bow their knee to the Risen Son of God. Jesus Name, saves us.

    We Christians are missing opportunities to reach out to our communities, or the one on Facebook (that I do not have). I'm here if anyone wants to send a friend here for conversation and prayer for their needs. Everyone in here wants to help.

    This shooting in Uvalde has really disturbed me that no one probably knew the abuse the grandmother suffered. We need to do more evangelistically. Have calling cards with the name of this room on it. Leave Facebook and come here. I will fast and pray the Prince of the power of the air LEAVE our air space. He's not all powerful. Jesus gave us His Name and His authority.

    We can agree and it will be done. Believe it.
  • Ty - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    As always I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts. Your heart has watered me on many an occasion. Thank you. May I offer something the Lord has placed upon my heart ro share, please;

    I used to run rampant on social media. Gloating of my physique, possessions etc. A man of flesh. At some point things began to change. I saw social media as septic. As a trap. I deleted all social media. (This was years ago.) During covid I felt lead to reach out to people(among the lonely dark times) and decided to create just one social media account. Recently, on this account I felt pulled to begin sharing Jesus. The shame and embarrassment I would have previously felt dissolved. I have posted more and more about our Father and the Bible but in a non-overbearing or "shove it down your throat" manner. Subtle. Since posting I have had many people thank me. They said that seeing or reading these posts has helped them to reconnect with the Father. They have felt refreshed when seeing a post during a hard day or exactly when they needed a slice of hope and encouragement. Many have become so surprised to learn how my life has changed. One dear friend shared that he has begun to think about things he never considered. Even said he would like to check out my church soon! His first service ever. I challenge those who have social media to step onto the diving board. Shine just a bit of light into that darkness. Social media is a true representation of the world. Are we to not shine light unto the world? Use social media as a platform for reaching others. Take the ridicule, bare your cross. Set the example. Share His love and presence in the darkness. We don't need "likes," we need Jesus.

    (I will also state I am not a fan of FB for many reasons but for the sake of above comments, there's at least a bit of purpose to that platform.)

    God Bless my brother! I look forward to your words each evening. You are a man of great wisdom and passion.
  • Five Fold Ministry of Jesus in this Room - In Reply on Job 32 - 2 years ago
    I lasted only 2 months on Facebook. It was too much trying to manage requests, and advertisements. I was caring for my elderly mother who had dementia;

    And my 4 month old grandson (so mom could go back to work).

    I'm banned from YouTube and TikTok for making religious comments. :/ I gave up lol

    I buy tracts from "Chick dot com". I leave them at my usual places: bus and park benches, on sidewalks outside of goodwills, we'll placed around outside things at Lowes and Home Depot. I write names of churches in the area, on their backs. Chick has changed their outreach message to be understand the Gospel message.

    I'm going to a new church planting in my town. I pray for the Anointing to fall upon every member, even children.

    I totally believe God sent them here. Services being right on a walking trail. It tells me there is demonic opposition. I was yelled off the sidewalk outside of Christian Scientists Church numerous times :D I don't think Satan should feel so comfortable. Prayer changes atmosphere.

    Thank God for praying grandfathers and grandmas!

    Precious man of God, you are a paramedic fireman, like I was. You see the need__the wounded, those losing hope; you can send some here. Every one in here knows how precious each soul is to Jesus. Jesus carry's His Lambs in His arms. May we ask God to watch over every new birth, with His angels.

    We answer all questions, and pray too.

    Streetpreacher



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