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He chose soil and moulded Adam into the form all people would be. Since we have the elements within us now: of unique chromosomes and DNA, all of that would pass into future people born. God breathed life into Adams nostrils, the breath of LIFE. Adam was completed. A living, breathing HUMAN being.
God Made Eve from just one of Adams ribs. She had the identical components in her body; plus the capability to bear children. A womb and breasts to feed her children.
We do not know what color Adam and Eve were. Scientists cannot figure it out either. DNA and chromosomes are still mysterious to them. It's still a science not explained. A white woman can be implanted with donated sperm, and give birth to a black (or other colors) child. That's why they separate sperm now, and store it according to the fathers color.
The old days restrictions (by families) of people intermarrying with people of different color, has been abolished. So we currently see what some people call " mixed race families.
All of this is from Gods permissive Will for mankind. It was of man to separate us, and try to restrict inter- marriage.
Restrictions God put upon the Jewish people, is that they marry other Jews. But people will be people, fall in love with other races and religions. The restriction imposed is that the children will be raised as Jewish.
Myself, I'm what one would call a Gentile. Non-Jewish. I was raised in a Southern Baptist Church and was baptized at 12. I will end this there. I hope you can accept how God made this world and the people he put on it. Be at peace. May we do as God spoke into us: be fruitful and multiply.
This world will end because God made a blood covenant with Israel, concerning their land. That was Gods decision.
He made covenant with descendants of Abrahams son, Israel. Jesus is Jewish and we can receive him as savior and Lord; today.
This isolation and repetition of a closed system of gene transmission would produce characteristics specific to each isolated people groups that distinguished them from other isolated groups. This would lead to different "races". But in reality, humans are all one race with consistent variations of characteristics that distinguish them as only human, just like the variations in horses are present but they are all horses, though different breeds created either through natural genetic transmission between an isolated group or manipulated by man.
We are all humans created by God possessing the His image in a way that is not well explained in Scripture. Knowing that we all have this quality placed in us by God we can understand that we are different than the animals in abilities and in intrinsic value. This is why God emphasizes to us to value and protect human life and to avoid ending anyone's life through murder or gross negligence. He says this to Noah ( Genesis 9:6) and through Moses ( Exodus 20:13) and through Jesus ( Matthew 5:21-22).
Jesus even expands this commandment by not actual murder, but by hating another or dehumanizing another person.
We are to love our neighbor as ourselves and do good to others, avoiding harming them. We are to be compassionate and caring towards others regardless of their "looks", ethnicity, or status. We are to be welcoming of those that are not from our "area", treating them justly.
Hi Larry, I found a good explanation on a site that I cannot remember at the moment concerning DNA in Adam and Eve.
Part 1
For a certain trait like physical characteristics each parent has a combination genes that can be transmitted. So, the example i found illustrated it this way:
If both Adam AND Eve had AaBb for a specific trait then these combinations can be transmitted when an egg is fertilized by sperm to form a new person with a DNA genetic makeup that is a combination of the two parents.
So the DNA transmitted for a specific gene can be:
AABB AABb AAbb AaBB AaBb aaBB aaBb aabb
With every child and any child, the combination can be one of these, with each child having a different combination or even the same. In this way, the dominant trait (capital A and B) usually prevails, but not always. So, with the myriad of genes, there can be much variety in characteristics of offspring in subsequent generations as they intermarry with one another.
Genes that would determine characteristics that would lead to a certain race would emerge among the population. So, the entire population would not be homogenous. After the flood, Noah and family must have also possessed combinations similar to Adam and Eve. And the process would have been repeated as it was for Adam and Eve's descendants through Seth. The building of the tower of Babel was used by God to scatter people outward from the Mesopotamian plains to inhabit other areas of the earth as they continued to migrate outwards from this origin over time.
As peoples settled in isolated areas and intermarried with one another, the DNA for specific genetic traits of these people would be repeated more often in their offspring than an anomalous DNA from their predecessors from Mesopotamia.
Why God has Love for Everyone Who Asks of Him - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 2 years ago
All races and colors came from the soil God used to make Adam. So what was in your soil, was passed from generation to generation; based upon the colors that married into your unique bloodline.
In the past decades, the restrictions people had about intermarriage with other colors and cultures was lifted.
We see today the results of that. I am an artist, and I can see the beauty in the blending of colors. I think that is how God views us. Unique and equally precious in His sight. It makes Him happy for us to accept ourselves and conquer our self-images of what we think is perfection.
The more we know about the God of the Bible, and the universe the more we understand the plan He has for all of mankind. He isn't against colors in inter-marriage. He just doesn't want believers in Him to marry the Un-believers. Your going to meet lots of people who no one never told them about God.
You have to decide who you are inside of you, and do you want Jesus to be a part of your life always.
Personally I think it is great inner strength to just say no to the ugliness that is "out there". It becomes easier if you'll hang out with people your own age, in a church near you. You might have to visit 2 or 3, until you find one you feel comfortable in. God will help you choose if you ask Him to.
You can come in here and join us in back and forth conversation any time. We're all different ages, USA and all over the world. Let your friends know about us :)
Get to know everyone. Everyone can pray with you for specific needs. We're here around the clock. I'm your basic night owl lol.
You are going to find you're loved by Jesus, and from all of the regulars in here. We're young, older, all colors; and we all love the Lord and his children. Ask anything.
When Earth Was Turned Upside Down - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 2 years ago
Lucifer was a covering Archangel; 4th in line to Gods throne. He coveted Gods throne, and God had him thrown to earth. His name changed to Satan and his form was that of a serpent. He's described in Isaiah 14.
I was taught Isaiah 24 is a view of pre-Adamic earth.
Scientists have discovered and agree, what happened to earth killed everything at the same time; according to carbon dating of water and land animals.
Isaiah 24:18 refers to Genesis 7:11 and Psalm 18:7 and Psalm 76:12. God dealt with the high demon princes. The flood killed every human or animal bodies, that evil spirits had overtaken. Isaiah 14
Curiously, the scientists agree that the only life (carbon date proves it) that survived, were conies. Proverbs 30:26,
Psalm 104:18. They survived in underground burrows when the dinosaurs were exterminated. Got water from plants alive underground!! That's amazing.
Scientists agree, one single event extinguished all life on earth near the same carbon date. I believe what the Bible says: God turned the earth upside down.
We serve a MIGHTY GOD! Why do we worry at all?
I dutifully watch all those archeology shows on tv media for everybody, not just me. Little conies proved it; and they are in the Bible!! Read those Bible verses.
We are going to be living with this amazing Godhead, in heaven, every single day. ( 2 Peter 3) He is going to purify earth of our lame creations like hideous skyscrapers. No orchards. landscapes of boxy single family homes :/
I want to go to work with Jesus every single day; how about you?
Get a Study Reference Bible, with the Center Columns that have the a-b-c notes that take you to additional scriptures that add more info to what you are reading.
Yes you're going to get the full picture if you are willing to dig down like a Conie.
Wonderful and thought provoking question. I will offer my understanding but look forward to someone who may offer a more appropriate response.
Consider DNA. Many today are taking DNA tests to find they contain small percentages of DNA from other cultures or countries. Example: "white" person in USA contains 3% African DNA or 8% Native American. It comes as a surprise to many. What this means is that our grandfather or grandmother 10x over+ may have had a very different color of skin than we have now.
Within the first man or men of creation there must have been many "kinds" of DNA, race etc. Rather, the first man must have contained all of the traits of all of the races. Was Adam light skinned or dark skinned? Was he both? Consider dominant and recessive traits passed through the generations. Most of us are just mutts!
Food for thought.
Hopefully this helps in some manner and again I'm sure someone with more accurate knowledge can offer a better response than I provided.
Genesis 11:1-10 I believe would answer your question,
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech."
"Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."
To put it the simplest way I can, let's look at it like this. God created MAN. Then he fashioned man by dispersion and there came the races. Hopefully someone can go in more detail.
He chose soil and moulded Adam into the form all people would be. Since we have the elements within us now: of unique chromosomes and DNA, all of that would pass into future people born. God breathed life into Adams nostrils, the breath of LIFE. Adam was completed. A living, breathing HUMAN being.
God Made Eve from just one of Adams ribs. She had the identical components in her body; plus the capability to bear children. A womb and breasts to feed her children.
We do not know what color Adam and Eve were. Scientists cannot figure it out either. DNA and chromosomes are still mysterious to them. It's still a science not explained. A white woman can be implanted with donated sperm, and give birth to a black (or other colors) child. That's why they separate sperm now, and store it according to the fathers color.
The old days restrictions (by families) of people intermarrying with people of different color, has been abolished. So we currently see what some people call " mixed race families.
All of this is from Gods permissive Will for mankind. It was of man to separate us, and try to restrict inter- marriage.
Restrictions God put upon the Jewish people, is that they marry other Jews. But people will be people, fall in love with other races and religions. The restriction imposed is that the children will be raised as Jewish.
Myself, I'm what one would call a Gentile. Non-Jewish. I was raised in a Southern Baptist Church and was baptized at 12. I will end this there. I hope you can accept how God made this world and the people he put on it. Be at peace. May we do as God spoke into us: be fruitful and multiply.
This world will end because God made a blood covenant with Israel, concerning their land. That was Gods decision.
He made covenant with descendants of Abrahams son, Israel. Jesus is Jewish and we can receive him as savior and Lord; today.
Streetpreacher
This isolation and repetition of a closed system of gene transmission would produce characteristics specific to each isolated people groups that distinguished them from other isolated groups. This would lead to different "races". But in reality, humans are all one race with consistent variations of characteristics that distinguish them as only human, just like the variations in horses are present but they are all horses, though different breeds created either through natural genetic transmission between an isolated group or manipulated by man.
We are all humans created by God possessing the His image in a way that is not well explained in Scripture. Knowing that we all have this quality placed in us by God we can understand that we are different than the animals in abilities and in intrinsic value. This is why God emphasizes to us to value and protect human life and to avoid ending anyone's life through murder or gross negligence. He says this to Noah ( Genesis 9:6) and through Moses ( Exodus 20:13) and through Jesus ( Matthew 5:21-22).
Jesus even expands this commandment by not actual murder, but by hating another or dehumanizing another person.
We are to love our neighbor as ourselves and do good to others, avoiding harming them. We are to be compassionate and caring towards others regardless of their "looks", ethnicity, or status. We are to be welcoming of those that are not from our "area", treating them justly.
Part 1
For a certain trait like physical characteristics each parent has a combination genes that can be transmitted. So, the example i found illustrated it this way:
If both Adam AND Eve had AaBb for a specific trait then these combinations can be transmitted when an egg is fertilized by sperm to form a new person with a DNA genetic makeup that is a combination of the two parents.
So the DNA transmitted for a specific gene can be:
AABB AABb AAbb AaBB AaBb aaBB aaBb aabb
With every child and any child, the combination can be one of these, with each child having a different combination or even the same. In this way, the dominant trait (capital A and B) usually prevails, but not always. So, with the myriad of genes, there can be much variety in characteristics of offspring in subsequent generations as they intermarry with one another.
Genes that would determine characteristics that would lead to a certain race would emerge among the population. So, the entire population would not be homogenous. After the flood, Noah and family must have also possessed combinations similar to Adam and Eve. And the process would have been repeated as it was for Adam and Eve's descendants through Seth. The building of the tower of Babel was used by God to scatter people outward from the Mesopotamian plains to inhabit other areas of the earth as they continued to migrate outwards from this origin over time.
As peoples settled in isolated areas and intermarried with one another, the DNA for specific genetic traits of these people would be repeated more often in their offspring than an anomalous DNA from their predecessors from Mesopotamia.
In the past decades, the restrictions people had about intermarriage with other colors and cultures was lifted.
We see today the results of that. I am an artist, and I can see the beauty in the blending of colors. I think that is how God views us. Unique and equally precious in His sight. It makes Him happy for us to accept ourselves and conquer our self-images of what we think is perfection.
The more we know about the God of the Bible, and the universe the more we understand the plan He has for all of mankind. He isn't against colors in inter-marriage. He just doesn't want believers in Him to marry the Un-believers. Your going to meet lots of people who no one never told them about God.
You have to decide who you are inside of you, and do you want Jesus to be a part of your life always.
Personally I think it is great inner strength to just say no to the ugliness that is "out there". It becomes easier if you'll hang out with people your own age, in a church near you. You might have to visit 2 or 3, until you find one you feel comfortable in. God will help you choose if you ask Him to.
You can come in here and join us in back and forth conversation any time. We're all different ages, USA and all over the world. Let your friends know about us :)
Get to know everyone. Everyone can pray with you for specific needs. We're here around the clock. I'm your basic night owl lol.
You are going to find you're loved by Jesus, and from all of the regulars in here. We're young, older, all colors; and we all love the Lord and his children. Ask anything.
Streetpreacher
I was taught Isaiah 24 is a view of pre-Adamic earth.
Scientists have discovered and agree, what happened to earth killed everything at the same time; according to carbon dating of water and land animals.
Isaiah 24:18 refers to Genesis 7:11 and Psalm 18:7 and Psalm 76:12. God dealt with the high demon princes. The flood killed every human or animal bodies, that evil spirits had overtaken. Isaiah 14
Curiously, the scientists agree that the only life (carbon date proves it) that survived, were conies. Proverbs 30:26,
Psalm 104:18. They survived in underground burrows when the dinosaurs were exterminated. Got water from plants alive underground!! That's amazing.
Scientists agree, one single event extinguished all life on earth near the same carbon date. I believe what the Bible says: God turned the earth upside down.
We serve a MIGHTY GOD! Why do we worry at all?
I dutifully watch all those archeology shows on tv media for everybody, not just me. Little conies proved it; and they are in the Bible!! Read those Bible verses.
We are going to be living with this amazing Godhead, in heaven, every single day. ( 2 Peter 3) He is going to purify earth of our lame creations like hideous skyscrapers. No orchards. landscapes of boxy single family homes :/
I want to go to work with Jesus every single day; how about you?
Get a Study Reference Bible, with the Center Columns that have the a-b-c notes that take you to additional scriptures that add more info to what you are reading.
Yes you're going to get the full picture if you are willing to dig down like a Conie.
Mishael
Wonderful and thought provoking question. I will offer my understanding but look forward to someone who may offer a more appropriate response.
Consider DNA. Many today are taking DNA tests to find they contain small percentages of DNA from other cultures or countries. Example: "white" person in USA contains 3% African DNA or 8% Native American. It comes as a surprise to many. What this means is that our grandfather or grandmother 10x over+ may have had a very different color of skin than we have now.
Within the first man or men of creation there must have been many "kinds" of DNA, race etc. Rather, the first man must have contained all of the traits of all of the races. Was Adam light skinned or dark skinned? Was he both? Consider dominant and recessive traits passed through the generations. Most of us are just mutts!
Food for thought.
Hopefully this helps in some manner and again I'm sure someone with more accurate knowledge can offer a better response than I provided.
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech."
"Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."
To put it the simplest way I can, let's look at it like this. God created MAN. Then he fashioned man by dispersion and there came the races. Hopefully someone can go in more detail.
God bless.
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