Bible Discussion Thread

But we can't have grace without faith.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: ( Ephesians 2:8)

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ( James 2:26)

Therefore, to believe the entire Bible and not just parts of the Bible we would need to say we are saved by both grace and works.

And many Biblical passages confirm this:

Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. ( James 4:7)

Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. ( Hebrews 4:11)

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; ( Hebrews 5:9)

and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. ( Revelation 2:23)

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: ( Revelation 2:26)

I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. ( 1 John 2:13)

To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, ( Revelation 2:7)

He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. ( Revelation 21:7)

Romans 4:20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21- And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

Romans 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Hebrews 11:6 (But without faith it is impossible to please him): for he that cometh to God (must believe) that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Hello Paul

Instead of saying we can't have grace without faith, I would say we cannot have faith without grace. Faith is the gift that comes from unmerited grace bestowed upon us who God foreknew are to be saved. We don't produce faith in order to receive grace, faith is produced by being graced by the regenerative work of the Holy Spirit which enables us to believe.

Paul, thanks so much for quoting verses that get passed over so easily because we live in an entitlement society. Others verses to go along with the ones you quoted. Luke 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." When James says "faith without works is dead" he means dead for salvation. He starts the discourse about faith and works saying can faith alone save him.

Brother Paul,

Amen. The scripture's you present here is clearer than crystal clear water!

We only need to drink from this ever flowing water.

John 4:14

"But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life."

God Bless.

Romans 11:18, 19, 20, 21, 22

2 Peter 2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;