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BIBLE DISCUSSION THREAD 193475

Bible Discussion Thread

 
  • Patti on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Do people who are in heaven pray for those on earth and do they know what's going on here on earth?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 6, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 7, Romans 8:27, Romans 8:34, Psalms 139,

    Romans 8:26,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on 1 John 1 - 2 years ago
    The verses in Revelation about the incense of the prayers of the saints seem to indicate this. ( Revelation 5:8 and 8:4). This could of course specifically refer to those still suffering on earth; or a combination of them and those in heaven. John's revelation; and Stephen's of Christ STANDING up on His throne right before he died also seem to show understanding behind the veil; as it were.

    Obviously; the sin of necromancy which is a form of idolotry becomes a hotly contested point which many would state to show that this cannot be the case; or those who somehow believe in "soul sleep" despite verses to the contrary as scripture shows. It is certain that we are to NOT seek communication the OTHER WAY as to those who are departed. Such occurrences (with the possible exception of Saul and Samuel as recorded in scripture) are without question demons imitating the characteristics of the departed.

    We also don't need to be so fixated on what is tangible with the five senses; especially concerning the state of anyone who has passed on from this life and therefore doesn't have a physical body as yet like ours on earth. Those who are able to see the heavenly council (such as angelic and other creatures; as well as demons) are experiencing the spiritua realm; and thus would have a much clearer understanding of the cause and effect of events on the earth; as Revelation indicates. (The experience there could very well have been a literal visit to the future by John as well as understanding the message in the present to the churches). We certainly have evidence of Elijah (who never died) and Moses (who did) talking with Christ. They would have known what was going on with Him; at least related to His impending death. Again; the revealed glory may have been a glimpse of the future as well; or what He always was in preincarnate state.

    It certainly seems clear that we will be active participants during all Tribulation judgments; and see those under the throne.



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