Bible Discussion Thread

There is One Lord, One Faith and One Baptism Ephesians 4:5 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. john 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. There is only One god ( Not Three ) and his name is Jesus. Only One Faith, that we believe and Obey The plan of Salvation Written in the Holy Scriptures, And One Baptism, The Burial in water into the ( NAME ) of Jesus! Not the Titles of father son and holy spirit. Acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation (Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.) We must Believe and Obey This command for this Reason ( Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. If we are to take any part of this word away we make the entire Bible a fairy tale and a lie that nobody will believe, we MUST be BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF ( JESUS ) this is the Command to the NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH! I write this in the hope to see gods will that No Man should perish

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Isaiah 7:14

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Pentecost Apostolic,

I have yet to see anyone here say there are three Gods. I have read, and I agree that God exists in three distinct, co-equal, and co-eternal beings, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. These are not three God's, but one. I agree with you that John 1:1 is referring to Jesus as God. There are many places in scripture that refer to Jesus as God. There are also places that refer to the Holy Spirit as God. But we also have God the Father. Again, not three separate Gods but one.

You bring up Ephesians 4:5, so I would like to comment on that verse. It says, "One Lord, one faith, one baptism." One baptism! I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Paul is not talking about water baptism. It was Paul who said in 1 Corinthians 12:13 that we are all baptized by one Spirit into the body of Christ.

It is a Hebrew phrase that Paul used to describe the salvation process, that when the Holy Spirit comes into a person's life, they are cleansed. It has nothing to do with water baptism. And baptism also means identification. In 1 Corinthians Chapter 10, the people in the wilderness were baptized unto Moses. There wasn't any water baptismal ceremony. But when they identified with him and went through the Red Sea, they called it baptism.

Dear Pentecost, Apostalic.

You say that there is one God not three. The Chistian faith does not teach that there are three Gods, rather that God exists as, in essence, one Being in three distinct persons.

May I ask you, Who spoke from heaven at Jesus' baptism and transfiguration? Who descended upon Jesus at His baptisms and on the disciples at Pentecost? Who was Jesus praying to at the Last Supper and in the Garden of Gethsemane? Who is the Spirit that Jesus promised He would ask the Father to send to His disciples at the Last Supper?

Jesus wasn't praying to Himself. It was not Himself who spoke from heaven during His baptism and Transfiguration. He did not descend upon Himself at His baptism nor on the disciples at Pentecost. And he did not promise that He would send Himself to the disciples.

In reply to the term ( persons ) the dictionary says person (psn)

n, pl persons

1. an individual human being

2. the body of a human being, sometimes including his or her clothing: guns hidden on his person.

3. (Grammar) a grammatical category into which pronouns and forms of verbs are subdivided depending on whether they refer to the speaker, the person addressed, or some other individual, So Again, No The Bible dose NOT spell out ( trinity ) in any of Mans ( ( Interpretations . )

Good Morning, Pentecost, Apostolic.

Wikipedia defines person as a being that has certain capacities or attributes such as reason, morality, consciousness or self- consciousness.

It seems that that the word can denote a human being or a spiritual being.

I do not wish to have long discussion over the meaning of this word. But thank you for giving the definition from the Free Dictionary site.

Most of us who believe that God is a trinity understand that God is not human in nature (essence) but spiritual (with the exception that Jesus, the Son, who added human nature to His person to fulfill the redemptive plan of the Godhead from which was determined before creation). Prior to the incarnation, the Son was pure Spirit in nature along with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

If you do not believe God is three persons in one Being, then that is your prerogative. I just believe otherwise, as the Oneness doctrine does not satisfactorily answer the questions I posed to you in my reply to your original post.

Your Question was does the bible "spell out" trinity and the answer is NO. As always I write this In the hope of Ggds will That no man should be lost.

Hi Pentecost, Apostolic,

I was referring to my first response to you where I asked a number of questions. Not the question you referenced. I do not see that question in your first post on this thread. Perhaps I missed it.

In any event. I do not wish to get in a protracted discussion on this topic. I am convinced of my view, as you, yours.

Anyone else reading this thread who is unsure will have to investigate both claims for themselves. May the Holy Spirit reveal the truth to all and may the truth prevail.

One being in three distinct persons . Did you really say that ?

Dear Who,

Yes, I did say that. If you want a more complete explanation, I suggest that you visit a website like "Got Questions" or "Compelling Truth" or similar Christian site after googling What is the Trinity? or "How can God be One Being inn three distinct persons?

These sites may have better ways of saying what i was trying to convey.

Dear Sis GiGi,

Amen. Your explanation here is very logical, easy to understand, and one of the best I've heard, regarding the Triune God.

GBU

Triune God? Please Enlighten us all of where in the Holy Scriptures you find that term. I want to read it. I have not found God called by that title in any scrlpture at all

Hello sir or madam,

What is your goal and motive for arguing with people here?

God knows your motives or your heart. Do you genuinely want to get to know and understand God or have you already made up your mind? Have you tried praying and asking Him directly? Is your post here reflecting an open heart respectful of other believers or not?

So, the Bible has verses like this that call God plural 'we' and say the three are 'one' and Jesus is the Word and the Word is God and if you know the Son you know the Father, and numerous other examples. Some don't comprehend this. Just because you don't comprehend it doesn't mean its false. Maybe what you believe is false.

I don't know your heart, but know that some commenters in the past appear to be using an intellectually dishonest straw man argument to claim that "there aren't 3 Gods". No one claimed there were 3 Gods. 1 God in 3 personalities or units or persons is different than 3 Gods. Everyone knows this, but yet the same dishonest straw man claim is used over and over to quarrel and play their games. What spiritual force is most likely behind this dishonest attack: God or satan?

What is comes down to is do you believe the Bible is true and God's word or not. If you accept it all then you believe what it says in the following verses and accept it as truth. I don't understand the movies of attacking people who simply believe the Bible.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

Isaiah 7:14

Hebrews 1:8

Isaiah 44:6

Dear PA,

I never said that the word "Triune" was found in the scriptures? I was using the word triune as another word to reference Godhead.

There are three persons in the Godhead; the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one God, they are the same in substance, equal in power and glory. The word "triune" is sometimes used to refer to this Godhead. Godhead is found in the scriptures.

Colossians 2:9

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily."

Merriam Webster Dictionary:

Definition of godhead

1 : divine nature or essence

2 capitalized

a : GOD sense 1

b : the nature of God especially as existing in three persons.

So, Godhead is referring to three persons correct?

Triune also refers to 3 persons.

Merriam Webster Dictionary:

triune adjective

Definition of triune

: three in one:

a : of or relating to the Trinity

the triune God

b : consisting of three parts, members, or aspects

If you find this concept difficult to understand, you are not alone.

GBU

HELLO Dan, I am replying to Your idea, Godhead is referring to three persons or Merriam Websters Idea of Godhead, "the nature of God especially as existing in three persons" you asked "So, Godhead is referring to three persons correct?" and I say NO IT IS NOT REFERRING TO THREE PERSONS. it is referring to the power of GOD ALONE. To me there is no argument concerning this. There is No Debate. if it is not written in the Holy scriptures then I do not Preach it as always I write this in he hope of fulfilling the will of God, As written in 2PETER 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, ( not willing that any should perish, ) but that all should come to repentance.

In reply to the term ( persons ) the dictionary says person (psn)

n, pl persons

1. an individual human being

2. the body of a human being, sometimes including his or her clothing: guns hidden on his person.

3. (Grammar) a grammatical category into which pronouns and forms of verbs are subdivided depending on whether they refer to the speaker, the person addressed, or some other individual, So Again, No The Bible dose NOT spell out ( trinity ) in any of Mans ( ( Interpretations . )